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When the lounge begun...

Jun 22, 2011 7:07 PM

I was trying remember back to the beginning, the saved book thread in the repository goes back to October 2002, that thread must have been started a month or so after the great lounge creation, does anyone remember?

 

I miss those days.

 
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    Jun 23, 2011 12:45 AM   in reply to StevieJV

    Only the original license holder can upgrade your copy, so that means your employer has to upgrade his volume license..

     

    Ooooops! wrong thread.  Sorry. 

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 12:46 AM   in reply to StevieJV

    Please disregard the previous post.  Wrong thread. 

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 7:48 AM   in reply to Tai Lao

    Before I realized you were replying to the wrong thread, the thought of an "original license holder" brought to mind the image of The Architect character in The Matrix. "As the original license holder, I created the Lounge as a place for good…until the evil forces of Jive came and destroyed it…"

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 10:33 AM   in reply to Tai Lao

    Tai Lao,

     

    How did you get Strikethrough?

     

    I lost that, along with other formatting options, several months back, when there was a big change in the fourms.

     

    Just curious,

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - for the OP, I would think that I came to what was once the Photoshop Lounge in about 2002, though was not that active in it, as I had much more on my "plate," in other forums, and with my studio.

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 12:39 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt
    I got strike-thru by using the 'insert Raw HTML' feature if it works, that is.....


    Yay! (It's been so long, I was forgetting the proper syntax!. )

     

    Message was edited by: Kami Bambiraptor to make HTML work

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 3:03 PM   in reply to Kami Bambiraptor

    Well, that just might be great news!

     

    Tried it early in the week, and it was still a no-go.

     

    Hunt

     

    [Edit] Still not working for me, so might be Chrome?

     

    Since I do not get phantom line-breaks, and it lets me post images to the Adobe forum, I'll just do without it. Guess that I could always do it in AI, and then post it as a raster image...

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 3:06 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    the_wine_snob wrote:

     

    Well, that just might be great news!

     

    Tried it early in the week, and it was still a no-go.

     

    Hunt

     

    [Edit] Still not working for me, so might be Chrome?

     

    Since I do not get phantom line-breaks, and it lets me post images to the Adobe forum, I'll just do without it. Guess that I could always do it in AI, and then post it as a raster image...

     

    Just Testing to see if nested tags work.

    Seems a go now.

     

    Here's what I posted:

     

    <b>Just Testing<i> to see if <u>nested</u> tags </i>work.</b>

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 4:36 PM   in reply to Kami Bambiraptor

    Kami,

     

    I think that you are just rubbing salt into my wounds...

     

    Yeah, probably just a Chrome thing.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 10:24 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    the_wine_snob wrote:

     

    …How did you get Strikethrough?…

     

    HTML editor.

     
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    Jun 23, 2011 10:29 PM   in reply to Kami Bambiraptor

    Indented text still does not work. This line should be indented.

     

     

    One can use the Quote style, though.
     
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    Jun 23, 2011 10:41 PM   in reply to StevieJV

    StevieJV wrote:

     

    I was trying remember back to the beginning, the saved book thread in the repository goes back to October 2002, that thread must have been started a month or so after the great lounge creation, does anyone remember?

     

    I miss those days.

     

    I was here then, back in 2002.  I accidentally stumbled onto the Lonuge via a forum search on my name, and found a nasty, despicable thread here where I was being libeled and insulted behind my back, among many other victims.  This place was a veritable cesspool and a repository of mindless drivel and garbage back then.

     

    I'm happy to stress that I quickly became persona non grata in very short order after I found this place.   I have no knowledgde of when it started, but it was a well established mosh pit when I found it.

     

     

     

     

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    Wo Tai Lao Le

    我太老了

     
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    Jun 24, 2011 10:41 AM   in reply to Tai Lao

    This place was a veritable cesspool and a repository of mindless drivel and garbage back then.

     

    Sounds like I should be glad, that I was unaware of that. Does not sound like much fun - one of the reasons to have a "Lounge."

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - thanks for the HTML editor reply. Now, I do not feel so bad.

     
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    Jun 24, 2011 3:26 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    the_wine_snob wrote:

     

    … one of the reasons to have a "Lounge."…

     

     

    The Lonuge spelling was not a typo on my part in my last post; no need for scare-quotes.    That's what the Lounge came to be called in the vernacular.

     
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    Jun 24, 2011 4:48 PM   in reply to Tai Lao

    Without mention, I had not even noticed - maybe time to clean the monitor and my glasses... ?

     

    Thanks for the history. Maybe I did not spend as much time here, as I thought.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jun 24, 2011 9:34 PM   in reply to StevieJV

    well as someone who was here from day one, i can say it was the exact opposite of ramon's observation. he may have had a run in with one or more of the people who became "regulars" back in the day, but i suspect much of it was a carry over  (spill over) from the lively <cough> debates and discussions taking place in the mac photoshop forum at the time (america thread anyone?). between that and the growing amount of off topic banter/drivel in the main ps windows forum due to the people who helped the most becoming friends and starting to chat off topic (naturally) the mgmt decided to create a place for these growing friendships to continue without disturbing the on-topic posts in the main forums.

     

    in the beginning there were threads like favorite music, favorite lyrics, cool stuff (a favorite of mine ... here's my fav from that one: http://www.savageresearch.com/humor/insanityTest.html ) biblioholics anonymous, never ending story, just to name a few. later on as the diverse population grew and grew, and discussion turned towards more serious topic (war religion etc) an effort was made to keep those often cantankerous discussions in one thread "the politics and war thread"... not always successful, but mostly.

     

    as years went by, a couple of disgruntled individuals (for one reason or another) decided to troll the place, to the point where one actually threatened to kill another and their family. the beginning of the end. bans were handed out and ignored. ip addresses blocked and still the troll(s) refused to go away. in the end they got what they wanted. the photoshop lounge shut down, (now this is the general lounge) many of the original posters who had thousands of helpful posts outside of the lounge banned for life and a bitter feeling for those left behind.

     

    i seem to remember 9/11 going down when the lounge was here, so it was definitely created pre-sept. 2001. in fact, it was soon after that (again, iirc) that the politics and war threads were first created.

     

     

    dave milbut        19
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    Grass Hopper        007
    graffiti            867-5309
    phosphor        1933
    NJOS/Magill        100
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    Kathy Harris         OU812
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    Zeb            Googol
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    susan walters        7289 
    timothy foolery        420
    r_harvey        0x8000 (-32768)
    Jay Chevako        "I'm a panda not a number"
    Susan S.         √2
    John Slate        bleen
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    Gene Trujillo        789
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    Nancy S         241
    Christine Krof Shock    151
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    Bert Philippus         6.0 x 10^23
    Paz            108
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    Kelli Aylesworth        24601
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    Lisa Spike        44
    Ho             454
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    Lesh            59
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    Liz Bice         217
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    Ramón G Castañeda    91465 (honorary)
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    Pierre Courtejoie    255.255.255
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    Cathleen Clapper    49 and holding
    Mindy Baker        383

     

     

     

    several original members stayed for years and still left before the creation of panda numbers. viol8ion (carl) yrbkmgr (tony) and bludvls come to mind as some who aren't on the list.

     
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    Jun 24, 2011 9:38 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    it wasn't unusual to have threads in the several thousand post count, and at times the drivel (chatting) got as intense as any instant messaging could be, adding dozens of posts a minute to multiple threads. the forum software facilitated that. web crossing was fast and clean. ah, i miss that! one of the 1st steps to gutting the lounge was to blow away those long standing threads, then delete the archive function in the lounge, finally cutting back the time even non-archive threads remained before being system deleted down to as little as a week. what a sad, heavy handed way to deal with poeple who initially gather for no other reason than to help out adobe for free and teach and learn about adobe's software.

     
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    Jun 24, 2011 11:36 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    What dave said.  Spot on.

     
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    Jun 25, 2011 8:07 AM   in reply to dave milbut

    Dave,

     

    Thank you for the history lesson.

     

    As my visits were infrequent, and usually to just sit, read and laugh, I do think that I participated much at all.

     

    Also, just reading selected threads only tells one so much - a lot is missed in "translation."

     

    Appreciated,

     

    Hunt

     

    BTW - I just noticed that The Lounge is two full pages, and two of Dave's threads are still going with many pages.

     

    PS - also glad that some of The Lounge threads (may have been from the PS Loung?) were still up, as I got to see "I Love Monkeys," and still get a laugh, thinking about finding that one in the archive.

     
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    Jun 25, 2011 8:52 AM   in reply to StevieJV
    he may have had a run in with one or more of the people who became "regulars" back in the day, but i suspect much of it was a carry over  (spill over) from the lively <cough> debates and discussions taking place in the mac photoshop forum

    thinking this over, and being a windows guy, i believe that's how i met Ramón in the first place. in the middle of what he describes. someone was trash talking him (i don't recall exactly who). but his persistence and knowledge over the years turned me from an outsider who was first introduced to him by observing the coarser side of his keyboard, into someone who respects and even admire's him for his knowledge and his ability to eloquently defend his positions..

     
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    Jun 25, 2011 1:23 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    Ah! The Rogues Gallery!

     

    Time to bring back Compuserve?

     
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    Jun 25, 2011 1:33 PM   in reply to BigJohnD

    71660,1644 thankyouverymuch.

     
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    Jun 25, 2011 1:49 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    Wish I could remember my UserID - it had lots of 3s, something like 30213,3103. In octal of course.

     
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    Jun 25, 2011 9:17 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    dave milbut wrote:

     

    … that's how i met Ramón in the first place. in the middle of what he describes. someone was trash talking him (i don't recall exactly who)…

     

     

    …a guy to whom I ended up referring to as "the rabbit" because his last name coincided with the name of an imaginary 6' rabbit in a Jimmy Stewart movie classic…

     
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    Jun 26, 2011 12:10 AM   in reply to Tai Lao

    ah, check. nuff said. i try to forget arguments and remember the person (although i'm sometimes less good at people than numbers! lol) it makes life much pleasanter.

     
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    Jun 27, 2011 9:58 AM   in reply to dave milbut

    I certainly miss the old days (pre-troll(s)).

     
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    Jun 27, 2011 12:30 PM   in reply to ~graffiti

    oh yea baby! it was like a groovy 60's party pad with disco ball, black lights, happening shag carpet and a fully stocked wet bar. (and bacon).

     
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    Jun 27, 2011 5:18 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    Dave,

     

    As I recall, the bacon WAS good, but the beer was pretty bad.

     

    I see that things have not changed much.

     

    In The Video Lounge, one of our MOD's insists that they have Rolling Rock in the 'fridge, but I have started bringing some nice wines, and things are getting better. At least the dusty plastic plant in the corner has been dreagged to the curb.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jun 28, 2011 12:07 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    Fortunately, I now have Facebook to keep my bacon.

     
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    Jun 30, 2011 9:37 AM   in reply to StevieJV

    maybe i'm thinking of when we went into iraq and not 9/11... you're probably right. i can smell bacon, and i can also smell pencil shavings and coffee. hmm...

     
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    Jun 30, 2011 10:57 PM   in reply to StevieJV

    I am a relative newcomer to the forums, but when I read about discussions having taken place regarding religion and war, I don't wonder that Adobe has cracked down and reduced the lounge to one web page that is easily monitored.  I think companies can be made liable for content that they host.  Of course, the reduced functionality of the Jive software is another story altogether...

     
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    Jul 2, 2011 4:58 PM   in reply to acresofgreen

    The Video Lounge has been around for about as long as the old PS Lounge (what we see here, now), and those two topics were always forbidden. I can see why too. Just too hard to keep things on an even-keel, with feelings not being hurt, and scared cows not being Gored. [SIC]

     

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    Jul 3, 2011 10:16 AM   in reply to StevieJV

    just like the lounge was created to keep drivel out of the main forums, we created the religion politics and war thread to keep those topics out of the other threads in the lounge. coming from all over the world the diversity of oppinions was really varied and i learned more REAL things about my fellow earthicans than any time up to that point. it's amazing what yuu can discuss when everyone's adult and open minded and respectful of each other. unfortunately some people just can't play nicely. keeping that in mind, i guess it was doomed from the start.

     
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    Jul 5, 2011 9:25 PM   in reply to dave milbut

    <click>Like</click> @ dave, but I think the doom was not preordained.  Most participants in 'difficult' threads were able to converse respectfully.

     
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    Jul 5, 2011 9:26 PM   in reply to Roger Benedict

    Even Jk3 started to watch Liverpool in the Champions League!

     
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    Jul 5, 2011 9:27 PM   in reply to Roger Benedict

     

     
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    Jul 6, 2011 12:11 PM   in reply to dave milbut
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    dave milbut wrote:

     

    just like the lounge was created to keep drivel out of the main forums, we created the religion politics and war thread to keep those topics out of the other threads in the lounge. coming from all over the world the diversity of oppinions was really varied and i learned more REAL things about my fellow earthicans than any time up to that point. it's amazing what yuu can discuss when everyone's adult and open minded and respectful of each other. unfortunately some people just can't play nicely....


    Sadly true, especially of the politics discussions, which I have largely learned to avoid here and elsewhere. The virulent things that were said in some of the discussions were truly appalling.

     
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    Jul 7, 2011 11:10 AM   in reply to Roger Benedict
    Most participants in 'difficult' threads were able to converse respectfully.

    why yes, yes we were. even the most ardently oppositely oriented people were having great discussions before it was ruined by a (very) few ............... .

     
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