I have struggled and struggled with the different ways to "make" a blue sky where there isn't one, including taking photos of blue skies with nice clouds, but no luck!! Would REALLY appreciate ANY help and suggestions that have WORKED for you with enhancing a sky so that it looks REAL. Thank you in advance! =)
This tutorial should help:
The PSE9 Help menu has a link to the video tutorials.
Other than that, unless you post an example of an original and a description of what you want (clouds or not, increase the contrast of the existing sky, create your own sky and clouds, etc.) it's difficult to give more concrete examples -- there're many options available.
Ehh...I don't like her method -- she still winds up with the new sky pixels blending onto the foliage (or the original white sky appearing where she paints). Far better, IMO, to spend the time selecting the original sky using the Magic Wand (non-contiguous) and proceeding from there.
Thank you Ken!!! This is one of the many videos I have watched. I wasn't getting the best effect with this one either. =( Must be something I'm just not doing correctly! I am going to watch it again and give it a go! =)
Thank you for this link ~ seems like a good resource! I tried her technique and it worked except I'm having a little issue with my trees still. Going to work with it some more. Appreciate your help! =)
There still are some white artifacts around some small details. I think that by experimenting with the B&W conversion and its contrast and levels, the sky selection could be made more accurately and those artifacts eliminated. However, I ain't gettin' paid for this so I'll stop....
This example isn't nearly as nice to look at as photodrawken's (nice job), but shows
a slightly different way as described here:
after sky replacement:
Just two things:
1. use a levels adjustment layer instead of a curves layer
2. where is says select the bottom most layer and add a curves adjustment layer, that
means the bottom sky layer.
That'll work for that sample image. It seems to me that the key (no matter what method is used) is to get an accurate selection of either the sky or the foliage. I want to avoid as much "hand painting" as I can, and let PSE compute the selection.
I'm thinking that there could be another way of getting that selection -- by defining a mask. Perhaps by duplicating the original a few times and merging them with the "Multiply" mode? That might be a way of dropping out the whites and converting the rest to essentially black while preserving all the fine details. Will experiment with this....
How did you get the mask for your "new sky" layer?
The method i used above works best with images where the sky is totally blown out
and the horizon is well defined and your wiiling to make the sky kinda light as opposed to
a real dark sky as in your example, it doesn't work so well for images like the one you used.
The darken mode on the first sky layer and painting black to the tree line (horizon) on the
sky layer copy sorta makes the mask and levels layer removes most of the remaining sky
from the trees and buildings. I had to add a layer mask to the the sky layer because there
was so much white in the building and removing using the levels layer would have made
to sky to light.
The other layer that says darken flag pole was done with a shadow/highlights
adjustment , well pse 2's version of the shadow/highlights, because the pole and the mini
rotundra were so blown out. And top layer straighten was a merged copy using the
perspective, rotate and free transform to make the bulding look a little better.
Making a mask for the image you posted is not easy in photoshop elements, so
i kinda cheated by using a plugin called Mac's Remove White filter which is free.
1. Duplicated the background layer and ran the remove white filter to create a mask.
2. Put the new sky below the remove white layer.
3. Turned of the visibility of all the layers except the background layer and defined a pattern
from that layer. (pse doesn't have history brush, so a pattern makes a good substitute)
4. Made the layers visible and made a merged copy for the restore from history layer.
5. Selected the Pattern Stamp Tool set to aligned and that pattern and painted back
in the areas the plugin removed and over the blue in the trees.
Thanks for the explanation.
I fooled around with the idea of creating a mask by first making 4 copies of the image and successively blending them with "Linear Burn" and merging them down, one by one. That worked OK to get a high contrast image that I converted to B&W, then used Levels to eliminate the grays. The result was a very good image to use for selecting the trees (or sky), and I could use that to create a mask for the image to let the clouds show through.
However, after a few hours of playing around, I still wound up with "ghostly" looking branches (the thinnest branches). It turns out that in the original image the fine tracery of the small branches is mostly shades of gray. That's not a problem in the original image, where the sky is pale gray, but after applying a dark sky, those gray branches looked awful.
So, the image I chose is the limiting factor here. If I add a dark sky, I'm forced to "squeeze" down the width of the branches to the point where the thinnest ones are lost. This is what I showed in the final image in my previous post, and that final image is pretty much the best that can be done given the original image and the desire to add in a dark sky.
Whew! Did more stuff with levels, conversions, selections, contractions, feathering, etc., than I expected!
Bingo! That's the way to do it -- your final image is the best one yet. I always ignored that Remove White plug-in, because I thought I could accomplish the same using the built-in PSE tools, but your example disproves that theory.
Thanks also for the tip about creating a pattern for adding back in the image areas. That'll come in handy.
I'll give it a try and see how it works when using a sky photo with dark sky showing behind the upper branches....
Thanks for that link to KillWhite. It works perfectly here.
Here's the final result, and it looks very good. Just a little wonkiness in the leaves on the upper right:
N.B.: There is a noticeable tradeoff in quality when using the KillWhite filter, however. It reduces the white component of the pixels throughout the entire image, resulting in a noticeable colour shift and value change (darker). The right side of this image is the original, the left side has been processed with KillWhite:
Just noticed that the large tree trunks were blown out by KillWhite and the blue sky is showing through them. Will need to use MTSTUNER's method of implementing a Pattern Stamp to restore the original trunks.
Message was edited by: photodrawken -- Additional thoughts.
Aha! I discovered that the KillWhite filter will respect a selection, so I didn't need to set up a Pattern Stamp as a history tool to restore parts of the original image. Before using KillWhite, I simply used the Selection Brush tool (in "Mask" mode) to protect areas of the image:
Thank you photodrawken, MSTUNER and Mark Sand for ALL of your wonderful help with this one!! It's my first experience with a question to the Forum and I was surprised at all the great responses to help me! Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to sit with it and go through all the steps but hope to be able to in the next couple days!!!!
Have a great week!
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