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The Folio Builder panel, design-wise...

Oct 22, 2011 2:55 PM

Part of my job is to teach routined InDesign users how to build Folio's. Most of them do quite well, after their initial confusion with the Interaction panels ("which do and which don't work with ADPS"). But the panel they fear most, is definitely the Folio Builder. Not even because of its casual malfunctioning (that's my nightmare as a trainer), but mainly because of its design and cosmetics. The panel sports a well-know and trusted appearance, but it's a devil in disguise.

 

It begins with logging-in. "No, you can't click the bull's-eye, it's just a mysterious indicator." It would be much more obvious if it looked like a led (red or green) or if it had some useful interaction to it - letting you log in/out perhaps...

 

Next, the three-tiered views are not clear enough. When I show them the image below, and tell them how their workflow moves from left to right and from right to left (from "Account" to "Folio" to "Article" to "Layout" and v.v.) they immediately 'get it'. And after warning them that the navigational elements on top of the panel are quite clueless (what to hit, to go where to), and that you're often thrown back from Layout to Folio (skipping Article), they're in charge and on guard. Finally, I tell them that the "New" button magically changes its functionality in each level ("wait for the pop-up!"). It is highly unusual that a side menu shows and hides certain commands in each level. It should list ALL associated commands, and show momentarily unavailable ones grayed out.

 

This all wouldn't be necessary if the panel would be a bit more self-explanatory. I hope this rant helps to improve its design.

 
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    Oct 22, 2011 3:48 PM   in reply to Peter Villevoye

    very good. these all need to be addressed. the experience of the folio

    builder panel is bad... I have so many ideas of a redesign in my mind, but

    I'm not in charge. maybe this thread can turn into a design ideaas for the

    Panel.

     

    good start, Peter!

     

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    Am 23.10.2011 00:30 schrieb "Peter Villevoye" <forums@adobe.com>:

     

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    Oct 22, 2011 7:24 PM   in reply to Johannes Eckert

    Looking for advice on logging in to the Folio Builder. Error: [svr.Unknown]

    Do I need more than a 'normal' Adobe account? (is there a publishing group I need to belong to?)

    Thanks in advacne for help/advice - self learning this in Malaysia.

    Cheers,

    Ev

     
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    Oct 23, 2011 5:51 AM   in reply to EvBurk

    Have you updated all tools to the most recent version? Do you have a verified Adobe account?

     

     

     

    Bob

     
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    Oct 23, 2011 6:12 AM   in reply to EvBurk

    to make sure your account works with DPS log into

    digitalpublishing.Acrobat.com. then a few flags might be set, but in fact

    there is no special trick or group.

     

    —Johannes

     

    (mobil gesendet)

     
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    Oct 23, 2011 7:17 PM   in reply to Bob Levine

    Thanks to you both,

    I do have an account (I can log into the DigitalPublishing site, as well as the general Adobe site)

    I am running CS5 and have updated with:

    AdobeDigitalPublishing-All.dmg   as well as

    AdobeDigitalPublishing-Tools.dmg

    All of the DP panels open and the features work, still trouble loggin in.

    Maybe there's another patch or update that I'm needing?

    Thanks again,

    Ev

     
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    Oct 23, 2011 7:55 PM   in reply to EvBurk

    Just double checked, have not installed the "FolioPanel.dmg" although I can open the panel, so will retry.

     

    And that fixed it!

    Thanks for the patience and help.

    Ev

     
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    Oct 24, 2011 3:53 AM   in reply to Johannes Eckert

    To Johannes Henseler,

     

     

     

    "I have so many ideas of a redesign in my mind, but

    I'm not in charge. maybe this thread can turn into a design ideaas for the

    Panel".

     

     

    USERS SPEAK UP LET ADOBE KNOW

     

     

    Regards

     

     

    Vividi

     
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    Oct 24, 2011 2:48 PM   in reply to Peter Villevoye

    Feel free to openly discuss any improvements or behavior changes you'd like to see made to the folio builder panel. We value comments and suggestions from people actively using the products in the field. I have several usability improvements I'd like to see made to the panel, it just becomes a tradeoff between increasing stability, usability and new features. Input on these forums does get listened to and acted on.

     
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