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Ed.Macke 645 posts
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Video Camera Recommendations

Oct 31, 2011 6:09 AM

My sturdy old Sony SD Handycam has died, so I'm in the market for a new one.

 

I had asked for advice on this a while back but it's taken me a while to get to the point where I'm actually buying and I wanted to make sure nothing had changed drastically. Can you review the info below and comment?

 

First of all, I suppose it's time to upgrade from SD to HD.

 

Seems like it boils down to 2 basic camps: tape-based HDV and memory-based AVCHD.

 

For the best editing experience on PRE, HDV wins. But HDV cameras are much harder to find, and tapes certainly aren't as convenient as memory cards for many reasons. AVCHD is much more popular, but you'll need a fairly beefy computer for satisfying editing (which I don't currently have, I'm on an old XP 2GB, 2.8GHZ Pentium D).

 

So, if I get an AVCHD, can I easily convert the video into an HDV format? If I could do that easy and reliably, that seems like the best solution but that's a critical piece of the puzzle.

 

Thoughts?

 
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    Oct 31, 2011 6:23 AM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Well, like it or not, AVCHD has become the standard for hi-def consumer video, Ed. (Although HDV cams can still be had online.)

     

    Fortunately, Premiere Elements has greatly improved the way the program works with AVCHD in version 10. You don't need nearly the workhouse system that you used to need! You may even be able to get by with an i5 or lower-end quad core.

     

    But an XP running on an Pentium 2.8 ghz? That's a little underpowered for even HDV.

     

    So, unless you plan on upgrading your computer soon, I'd recommend you stick with standard def miniDV for now. That may mean shopping for discontinued or even used equipment on Amazon and eBay -- but you'll be much happier with your system's performance in the long run.

     

    AND the good news is that you'll be able to get a nice Sony miniDV camcorder for about $100-150 if you shop around!

     
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    Oct 31, 2011 8:23 AM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Well, Steve said you should stick with a miniDV tape camera with your current computer

     

    AVCHD requires a LOT more CPU power than you have to edit

     

    This is aimed at CS5, but the requirements are pretty much the same

     

    This message has a really good graphic about requirements

    CS5 Requirements http://forums.adobe.com/thread/810750?tstart=0

     
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    Oct 31, 2011 11:06 AM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Yes, AVCHD would be good long-term investment. Especially if you stick with a Sony or Canon cam.

     

    But, as we've warned you, until you get that new computer, you may find working with it on that Pentium a bit slow and frustrating.

     

    So if it were me? I'd drop $100 on a miniDV until I'm ready to make a big investment on a $600 camcorder and an $800 computer.

     
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    Oct 31, 2011 12:44 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    When you are ready for a new computer, do read in http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_forum 

     

    Most of the discussion concerns Premiere Pro, but there is still a wealth of information there

     

    A short summary... for Premiere Elements 10 and AVCHD

     

    Intel i7 2600 (or 2600k if you plan to overclock)

    Motherboard of your choice... ASUS is most often recommended

    Windows 7 64bit... Home version for up to 16Gig of ram, Pro version for more ram

    16Gig of ram at "current" prices for 4 x 4Gig ram sticks

    -32Gig of ram if you want to buy 4 x 8Gig ram sticks if/when available

    320-to-500Gig boot drive

    AT LEAST one data drive, 1T is a good size

    750watt "gold" power supply

    Unless/until PrElements adds "CUDA" support, just about any ATI graphics card will work... I suggest at least 512Meg video ram on the card

     

    My 3 hard drives are configured as...

    1 - 320Gig Boot for Win7 64bit Pro and all program installs

    2 - 320Gig data for Win7 swap file and video project files

    3 - 1Terabyte data for all video files... input & output files (*)

    (*) for 4 drives, drive 3 all source files & drive 4 all output files

    .

    Search Microsoft to find out how to redirect your Windows swap file

    http://search.microsoft.com/search.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US

     
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    Oct 31, 2011 5:12 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Dell is a good general purpose computer (we have a lot of them where I work) but I personally would not buy one for video editing

     

    Of course, I am comfortable building my own, so that is what I do http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694?tstart=0

     
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    Nov 3, 2011 12:05 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    When I was using a Sony 8mm analog camera, I bought a GO Video 8mm/VHS deck... I have no idea what is available for miniDV tapes, other than buying another camera and getting all of your tapes transferred to your computer (buy another hard drive!)

     

    At about 13Gig per hour of DV video, you will be able to figure out of the size drive you need to buy

     

    As well as my internal 1T drive for current work, I have several USB hard drives I use for storage... not for editing due to transfer speed, but fine for backup copies

     
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