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OMF/AAF export: Does it ever work correctly?

Jan 23, 2011 4:16 AM

I'm cutting a feature film using Premiere Pro cs5... I've finished cutting the first 10 minutes of the film and want to export an OMF or AAF to the sound guy so he can import it into Logic Pro, to test out the workflow... now there is nothing fancy going on with my sequence... 9 audio tracks, just dialog and a music track.... no fx, no audio transitions and the video is straight cuts with a few cross dissolves... I've tried exporting to OMF about 6 different times with this sequence ticking/unticking the options but it never completes the export....just stops %75 through and I have cancel it.... AAF export finishes but lists several errors and less than half of the audio is included... so neither option seems to work correctly...

 

I read several older posts here about the inability and inconsistency to export OMF/AAF out of Premiere Pro Cs4/Cs5... with the workaround being to manually export each audio track... is that the current state of affairs? Has anyone isolated the factors that cause PPro to stall when trying to generate an OMF?

 

How are people taking their temp mixes from their PPro cuts and getting them into Pro Tools, Nuendo, Logic etc?

 

I've also tried exporting OMF's from a few of my other sequences but it never works.... any tips? Or do I just need to manually export each audio track seperately and file a bug report? Thanks!

 

using PPro Cs5 5.0.3 on Win7 64... i7 920 16gb ram

8258 Views   15 Replies   Latest reply: minkymong, Apr 6, 2012 11:06 AM
 
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  • ninteknohardcore
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    1. ninteknohardcore,
    Jan 23, 2011 8:20 PM   in reply to ninteknohardcore
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    After doing some more research I found this which has some things to try to get OMF's out of PPro Cs5... I tried all the tricks but none of them worked... Premiere Pro works flawlessly in every other respect...its just too bad this required professional functionality is screwed up... Is the recommended workflow to do final audio mixes inside of Premiere?

     

    Or lets say you wanted to stay all Adobe ... without OMF/AAF working properly how would you get your multitracks into Adobe Audition? I mean you could always solo your audio tracks and export them one by one... is that the only reliable solution?

     
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  • shooternz
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    2. shooternz,
    Jan 23, 2011 8:57 PM   in reply to ninteknohardcore
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    I did an AAF export today and what it does is export AAF

    for the entire Sequence!.

     

    It reported errors from other sequences.

     

    I wanted the ability to export a single (clean and tidy ) sequence within the project.

     

    No use to me at all.

     
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  • ninteknohardcore
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    3. ninteknohardcore,
    Jan 23, 2011 11:20 PM   in reply to shooternz
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    Thanks for the reply... After doing more testing I'm able to export an OMF from a simple sequence with 2 audio tracks... but my actual working sequences with 9 audio tracks with lots of dialogue pieces never finish... it seems as with the AAF errors that there are some unsupported features or elements that are causing the problems... I've read about nesting and time remapping causing problems but I'm not using either...

     
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  • davidbeisner2010
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    4. davidbeisner2010,
    Jan 24, 2011 8:45 AM   in reply to ninteknohardcore
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    I also had issues with AAF/OMF export of a project I had with three video tracks and 12 audio tracks. I needed to get an edit to a guy and ended up just sending him my project file with the media and he pieced it together that way...

     

    I'm not sure on this, but I think I remember reading something about Premiere struggling with OMF where you had more than 2 or 3 tracks of audio running at once...

     
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  • ninteknohardcore
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    5. ninteknohardcore,
    Jan 24, 2011 9:17 AM   in reply to davidbeisner2010
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    Yeh it does seem to choke when trying to export an OMF from these sequences that have 4+ audio tracks going at once... I guess we're supposed to make silent films

     

    Thanks for the replies! I exported a Final Cut XMLfrom PPro and sent that and the audio source files to a friend running Final Cut Pro and he was able to export an OMF for me...so I guess I'm going to do that as my workaround.

     
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  • nahawand
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    6. nahawand,
    Apr 13, 2011 2:50 PM   in reply to ninteknohardcore
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    I've just tried to export OMF from CS 5.02 with 13 tracks of audio.. it worked fine, and the sound guy did open it on PT 7.4 ..

    I had only one issue, it was stereo tracks that was residing in the timeline as separate mono tracks.. I just made render and replace for these special files and everything went smooth,,

    I had different file types on the timeline from DVDs and other MPEG layer 2 audio, audio from canon DSLR files and wave files that were recorded on edirol.. I think there were also other mp3s and wave from different sources.. the sequence was full of audio effects, transitions and volume envelopes.. the timeline count was around 52 minutes.. it works excellent and exports fast..

     
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  • @IFDD
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    7. @IFDD,
    Nov 7, 2011 3:03 AM   in reply to nahawand
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    @nahawand: I'm happy for you, but it doesn't work at all for me...

     

    I got 7 audio tracks from the sound guy (all mono) and the OMF export just chokes (no error, no anything, just hangs)... it is just plain broken... kind of sad... I'll give Avid MC6 a spin..

     
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  • Jeff Bellune
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    8. Jeff Bellune,
    Nov 7, 2011 5:08 AM   in reply to @IFDD
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    Please stop bumping old, multiple topics just to complain.  If you want help, pick one topic and post there.  Start your own if none of the other ones fit your particular problem.

     

    -Jeff

     
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  • @IFDD
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    9. @IFDD,
    Nov 7, 2011 5:11 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune
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    Unfortunately, it seems to be the only way of raising awareness with Adobe around this issue...

     
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  • Colin Brougham
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    10. Colin Brougham,
    Nov 7, 2011 5:16 AM   in reply to @IFDD
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    Actually, it's a completely ineffective method. This is a user-to-user forum with only ocassional Adobe interaction. The proper avenue is here: Adobe Feature Request/Bug Report Form

     
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  • Jeff Bellune
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    11. Jeff Bellune,
    Nov 7, 2011 5:19 AM   in reply to @IFDD
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    @IFDD wrote:

     

    Unfortunately, it seems to be the only way of raising awareness with Adobe around this issue...

    It's still a breach of Forum rules and etiquette.  Don't do it.  You've been warned.

     

    -Jeff

     
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  • @IFDD
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    12. @IFDD,
    Nov 7, 2011 5:30 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune
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    Could you please point me to the rules/etiquette and point out, which rules I am in breach of? Couldn't find anything...

     
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  • Jeff Bellune
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    13. Jeff Bellune,
    Nov 7, 2011 6:15 AM   in reply to @IFDD
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    http://www.adobe.com/communities/guidelines/

     

    Read *all* of the links included there.

     

    -Jeff

     
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  • @IFDD
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    14. @IFDD,
    Nov 7, 2011 6:28 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune
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    I *think* I did, but I'm still unclear as to which rules I broke. Could you please clarify? I'd like to avoid doing so in the future...

     
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  • minkymong
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    15. minkymong,
    Apr 6, 2012 11:06 AM   in reply to ninteknohardcore
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    Hey evryone,

     

    I had a similar experience with PREMIERE 5.5 , spent 5 hours scratching my head, wondering why certain files export no problem and certain make it crash.

     

    After careful combing and process of elimination of audio files I found out that certain encodings of even most common AIF, or MP3's files, trip the system. (for me it was a 2 second AIF snippet of a rock crumbling sound effect huddled together amongst 435 files FUN!)

     

    So you have to start eliminating channels and keep exporting piecemeal, until you find the faulty encoding. Remove it, and Voila!

     

    From then on everything works FAST & SMOOTH.

     

    Love PREMIERE, but little bugs like that drive you NUTS!

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    I hope this helps

     
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