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Gaussian Blur in Photoshop CS5 Corrupting files

Nov 11, 2010 1:37 PM

  Latest reply: kicker1975, Sep 23, 2012 11:34 PM
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    Aug 26, 2011 4:00 AM   in reply to srhkrnz

    Ok - by your response it seems to be a coincidence! What a pity! ;o)

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 7:58 AM   in reply to Chris Cox

    We too have someone in our agency getting this issue. Has any progress been made?

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:09 AM   in reply to chris.moen

    Maybe you could help make that progress if you/your colleague can reproduce the issue and take Jeanne Rubbo up on her offers (posts 38, 51, …).

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:22 AM   in reply to srhkrnz

    hey guys, its while ago since I posted about deinstalling the tablet driver - but what should I say?

    The bug seems to be beaten ;o)

     

    This might apply the fewest of you, and i couldn`t believe it as well, but since I turned off the driver

    it never happens again!

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:23 AM   in reply to c.pfaffenbichler

    Unfortunately just like everyone else here it is a random issue that proves to be something difficult to reproduce.

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:28 AM   in reply to srhkrnz

    The user here does not have a tablet driver installed at all I'm afraid. Using a logitech wireless mouse.

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:34 AM   in reply to chris.moen

    We conducted some in-house training to teach our designers how to adjust their workflow to avoid this issue.  Here's what we try to avoid: create a new file, place a few smart objects on seperate layers, apply a few layer masks and apply gausen blur (without converting the layer for smart filters) to a low ranking layer in your new document.  Then, make some changes to the layer mask on the layer that has the gausen blur with the brush tool, ereaser tool, whatever and then start to step back your work using command + z. Eventually, Ps is unabl to process the "undo" and the layermask on the gausen blur freaks out corrupting your file. 

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:43 AM   in reply to mattkoyak

    So can anyone at your location reproduce the issue within a reasonable amount of time if you do exactly what you recommend to not do?

     
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:48 AM   in reply to chris.moen

    Personally, I can destroy a file 4 out of 10 times by following those steps.  The more layers with GB + layer masks applied the better, and it helps if your placed images are large  (2000px x 2000px or greater).  Does it recreate the problem 100% of the time... no.  Has it happened since we started avoding those steps... no.

     
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    Sep 21, 2011 1:03 PM   in reply to lclark00

    Exact same problem here on more than 5 occasions.  For what it's worth it happens on gaussian blur and surface blur.  Apple genius have resently pulled my mac pro apart testing this issue and found nothing.  They replaced my video card as a ditch effort.  Problem happened again today somewhat differently to the usual fractal pattern curruption and instead large blocks of surface blur through rt layer.

     

    Issue has happened on  OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.1.  Happens randomly ~ cannot reproduce. 

     

    Sending system info to email stated.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 6:31 AM   in reply to justinbrimacombe

    same thing happens to me. About to go back to CS4.

     

    iMac 3.1 GHz intel i5 pretty much stock. I am running a wacom tablet and the latest driver for it.

     

    Usually happens when running a gausian blur but has also happened when running a motion blur.

     

    also when going edit/stroke when trying to put a stroke on a selection I have to save before doing so. About 50% of the time applying a stroke like that will crash this version of photoshop.

     

    Very disappointed in this version to say the least. It has been the buggiest version I have ever used for the particular way that I work.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 11:47 AM   in reply to chris gentry

    Please read the entire thread.

     

    We have not been able to reproduce the GBlur corruption - it doesn't happen to everyone, and we don't have enough information from customers to figure out why it happens to some users and not others.

     

    And I can't find any crash reports related to stroking a selection.  Are you sure you have all the latest patches installed for Photoshop and the OS?  And have you tried disabling all third party plugins (right now, third party plugins and OS bugs account for the majority of crash reports in Photoshop).

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 12:00 PM   in reply to Chris Cox

    Chris,

     

    I have read the entire thread. I am running a practicly brand new iMac which is stock and have no 3rd party plugins installed other than a wacom driver. Photoshop 12.0.4  x64 and Mac OS 10.7.1

     

    I have not submitted any crash reports when photoshop crashes when stroking a selection because I figure they fall on deaf ears. If you could tell me exactly what I need to do I will submit a crash report next time this happens.

     

    It is a big headache when I lose a little bit of work when the stroke crash happens but a much larger issue when I lose an entire document because I applied a blur.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 12:05 PM   in reply to chris gentry

    With all the topics in this forum and elsewhere about us responding to crash reports, fixing crashing bugs quickly, and helping peope figure out their third party bugs through crash reports -- how did you figure "they fall on deaf ears"?  No, we read the crash reports and fix what we can, and frequently respond to users via email when it's something we can't fix (OS bugs and third party plugins).  We also have support pages that will show for known crashes -- telling the users what to do to avoid or fix the crash.

     

    In the Adobe crash dialog (not the Apple one that comes up first), add details about what you were doing when it crashed, and add your email address if you want us to be able to respond or ask for more information to figure out the cause.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 12:12 PM   in reply to Chris Cox

    aw man seems I opened a can of worms that I didn't intend to. I meant nothing disrespectful about the falling on deaf ears comment. Just figured you guys are too busy to listen to a single customer so I never bothered with submitting a report.

     

    I will definitely submit something next time it happens.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 12:16 PM   in reply to chris gentry

    Don't take it personally CG... this has been a revolving door of frustration for everyone who's posted here.  It's a lost cause - no one at Adobe can replicate it. All you can do is adjust your workflow to avoid the steps we've highlighted as causing it.

     

    On another note, I know what you mean about the crash reports.  I had DW crash 12 times in a row and each time I submitted a detailed crash report... still waiting for a response.  

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 12:19 PM   in reply to mattkoyak

    not taking anything personally but didn't want to seem like I was being disrespectful or insulting. It is all too easy for something to be taken out of context on the internet.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 12:28 PM   in reply to chris gentry

    Yeah, you hit a nerve.  I spend a lot of time reading and responding to crash reports, in addition to getting the bugs fixed that caused those crashes.

     

    Not all teams are as good about following up on the crash reports.

    But it's still better to send them in than not - so we know more about the crash, know how often it happens relative to other crashes, and can try to get more information if the report itself doesn't tell us what went wrong.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 1:21 PM   in reply to Chris Cox

    I hit a nerve? Try rebuiding an entire file because of a glitch that not only messed up the last half hour of work but actually corrupted the entire file to the point where it is unusable even though you didn't save the file once it corrupted.

     

    I definitely won't be hitting any more nerves. Won't be posting here again and cerainly won't be upgrading or supporting your company in any form or fashion until I am forced to. Tired of shoddy programs. Tired of companies pointing the finger at each other over whose fault something is. Tired of getting the short end of the stick because accountants really run the show because at the end of the day it is all about profits and most definitely tired of being a real world tester so that big companies can save a penny.

     

    There are bugs in this program that have been here since it's introduction on OS X. I have had hundreds upon hundreds of dollars worth of nerves hit over the years not to mention time lost due to rebuilding files due to data corruption in this latest build that apparently can't be reproduced. None of this even begins to approach the frustration with the house of cards named Adobe Illustrator. I have lost all faith in your company and once astounding products and only use them because of there is nothing else available due to monopolization.

     

    I was trying to be nice. Trying to chime in that I too am having a issue. Even went as far as to clarify that I wasn't trying to be a jerk but still got told how I upset you. That is all good because I have been upset with the products out of this company for some time. At least we understand each other.

     
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    Oct 4, 2011 2:00 PM   in reply to chris gentry

    Hi Chris,

     

    As you can see from the rest of the thread, I've been trying to track down this corruption problem for quite a while now. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for all of you who have to deal with this issue, and I completely agree -- this is not acceptable. You should not have deal with corruption of your data. As DirtDiver31 said, we haven't been able to replicate it on our side (I personally have spent many hours trying to reproduce it), but this is still very much on my radar and I haven't given up on it. I can't tell you how thrilled I will be when we finally discover the cause of this. Every little bit of information helps.

     

    I know you're annoyed over the response you've gotten so far, but I hope you will reconsider your decision, and at least send me some of the info I've asked for earlier in the thread. Since it sounds like you run into this on a regular basis, I'm also interested in doing a Connect session with you if possible.

     

    Feel free to contact me (jrubbo AT adobe DOT com) with more info on the crash -- I can also look into that.

     

    Again, I'm sorry you've had such a frustrating time with this.

     
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    Oct 21, 2011 9:00 AM   in reply to Jeanne Rubbo

    Hi Jeanne.

     

    I am still having this issue and whilst I understand you cannot reproduce it, it is hard to send any details as the problem doesn't crash photoshop and so there's no crash report to send. I have emailed you a screenshot of my file which has just corrupted and is now un-useable. If you have made any progress on this problem please let us all know as I think we are all loosing a lot of hours reworking files that have corrupted.

     

    Thanks

     

    Neal

     
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    Oct 21, 2011 11:05 AM   in reply to Nam_uk

    The details needed are: what steps can reproduce this? What other things are installed with Photoshop that might cause corruption (third party plugins, utilities, etc.).

    We need all the information we can get that will help us reproduce the problem.

     
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    Oct 21, 2011 1:51 PM   in reply to Chris Cox

    As with everyone else in this discussion I can't actively reproduce the problem. It seems to occur when a file has smart or 3d objects in it but corrupts when a blur filter is used on any layer in the document - but this doesn't happen every time and so I can't reproduce the corruption on demand. Once it has happened to a file I'm working on any file I open before closing photoshop os also corrupted in the same way.

     

    This time round I had linotype's font explorer running which has a photoshop plugin active but when I initially had the problem I tried working without the program running and it still occurred so decided that wasn't effecting anything. The only other plugin I have added to photoshop is the ICOformat.plugin for saving windows icon image files - which I have used for a long time before the problem began. I have tried resetting the PRAM and I have done an extened hardware test so it is also not a hardware problem.

     

    I would be more than happy for you to remotely look into my system. Would it be possible to do it on a non-timed basis so I could email you when it next happens and you can look at it then to see what the document looks like and how it is set up when the problem occurs. Would that be more useful?

     

    Thanks

     

    Neal

     
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    Oct 25, 2011 12:42 PM   in reply to Nam_uk

    Hi Neal,

     

    I've contacted you via e-mail, but just to (publicly) answer your question about any progress -- no, unfortunately, there are not any new leads on this. Hopefully we can set up a Connect session at some point in the future when you run into this again.

     
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    Nov 7, 2011 8:34 AM   in reply to Jeanne Rubbo

    We're experienicing this problem on two of our retouching stations running CS5 Photoshop.

     

    Has anyone seen this problem in CS5.5? We were planning on waiting until CS6 came out to upgrade, but if this would stop the file corruption, I could probably swing for it for our six retouching Macs.

     

    Thanks.

     

    -- Jon

     
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    Nov 7, 2011 9:18 AM   in reply to moriabane58

    Inasmuch as Adobe and many others have been unable to reproduce the problem, I don't see how anyone can assure you that CS5.5 won't have the same issue.

     

     

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    Nov 21, 2011 4:33 PM   in reply to lclark00

    I have been having the same problem!

     
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    Nov 29, 2011 1:19 PM   in reply to lclark00

    Hi I am having an issue with corrupted files as well, but the cause of the problem is probably unrelated since the distortion is a little more dramatic. This is a screen shot of a .psd document....it should be an image of a building and landscape with about 10 layers (or somthing close to that). My problem didn't occur as i was working on the document, but rather after i had saved it and shut my computer down. when i turned my computer back on after a couple of days 3 of my most recent .psd documets had done the same thing.

     

    I am running Mac OS X 10.7.2

    2.3 GHz intel core i5

    4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

     

    please help!

    Screen Shot 2011-11-29 at 9.07.41 AM.png

     
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    Nov 29, 2011 10:55 PM   in reply to Hana@MGD

    That looks more like disk corruption, and doesn't seem to be related to this topic.

     
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    Nov 30, 2011 6:18 AM   in reply to lclark00

    Just to add to this thread, we updated two of our retouchers to CS5.5 Photoshop about three weeks ago and so far we haven't had the filter corruption issue re-occur. I'll let it run thru the end of the year and if we still haven't seen a reoccurance, we'll update the rest of the department.

     
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    Dec 9, 2011 9:09 AM   in reply to lclark00

    I have also been encountering the problem from time-to-time since installing CS5 EXTENDED on a brand new machine. I have a MacBook Pro, with the i7 core. I usually have PS contiunually running for days at a time. No third-party software except for wacom tablet. The corruption is completely random and frustrating. Same kind of situation, using gaussian blur, and then photoshop starts drawing blocks on my files. Sometimes it's on the actual layers themselves, and sometimes just in my layer masks. Cannot undo or revert file. Just completely corrupts it with blocks of information removed. I haven't submitted a crash report since it doesn't actually "crash" my computer, just destroys the file.

     

    Attached is an image. I had just applied gaussian blur on a new layer to create a drop shadow. The corruption attacked a different layer,  and cut a hole through the photo layer (It's not a white fill), You can see my drop shadow lingering through the corruption block.

     

    Please feel free to contact me with any additional questions, and please let me know if you come out with a patch. Due to budgetory constraints, sure when we will upgrade to 5.5 since we just bought 5 in March. I will try and post more images when this happens. Hope you can figure this out!

     

    corruption_sample.jpg

     
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    Dec 21, 2011 9:03 AM   in reply to lclark00

    I've been having this issue since we got CS5 at work, it's doing the same thing that everyone is describing, randomly after doing a gaussian blur  layers get corrupted. After the first few times it happened we replaced all the RAM in my machine and but it still randomly happens.

     

    Model Name:Mac Pro
      Model Identifier:MacPro3,1
      Processor Name:Quad-Core Intel Xeon
      Processor Speed:2.8 GHz
      Number Of Processors:2
      Total Number Of Cores:8
      L2 Cache (per processor):12 MB
      Memory:12 GB
      Bus Speed:1.6 GHz
      Boot ROM Version:MP31.006C.B05
      SMC Version (system):1.25f4

     

    System Version:Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)

     

    No third party plugins. CS5 v12.0.4 x64.

     
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    Jan 10, 2012 8:11 PM   in reply to lclark00

    Hi Everyone

     

    I also noticed that MANY MANY MANY of my files were beginning to look fuzzy.  At first I thought perhaps it was me resaving to often {PC system w/ Intuos 4} and now Mac.  Then I noticed while working on a few files LIVE that a clear image went a bit blurry all of a sudden.  Thankfully, I figured out that the system was making the command on it's own because when I selected "Undo" for something totally unrelated to Gaussian Blur and had not used Gaussian blur, the command "Undo Guassian" popped up.  Then, the lightbulb went off.  It is the system doing the command on its own for some reason.

     

    The other day, I worked on a vintage image graphic I had downloaded from another source.  Had worked on it in a prior session as well.  I looked over at my screen and where a few pixels had softly been removed from my edits, magic wand tool selection edits, {which was fine, I wanted the layer below to kind of show through}.  The pixels turned SQUARE!?  I have also had to close out docs without saving when I notice funky things going on. 

     

    There is a "pixel bender" file that I have noticed on the program.  Is this related to gaussian blur?  Is this a valid PS .exe?

     

    I have lots of history typically when working with my images.  Perhaps I could provide a copy to Adobe to see if technical support could figure this out.

     

    This problem has affected several documents, including logos!   So, I am thinking it is happening upon reopening files.  And as I recall, this was ALSO occuring on my old PC.  I thought I was saving incorrectly, see above.  I have a Mac now.

     

    I have a new Mac and do use an Intuos 4 Pen and Tablet.  But I am *NOT* clicking down on guassian blur.

     

    No Third Party Plugins.

     

    Typically, I have Bridge running in the background 90% of time.

     
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    Jan 11, 2012 7:55 AM   in reply to lclark00

    HI!

     

    I have a really big problem. I work in advertising and I need to retouch a lot.

     

    When I use the guassian blur, my file becomes corrupted and I loose all my work done. A lot of strange objects and lines appear...

     

    My Mac info:

     

    Adobe Photoshop Extended 12.0 x64

     

    3,06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

     

    4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3

     

    ATI Radeon HD 4670 256 MB

     

    Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 (11C74)

     

    Can anybody help me?

     

    Thanks a lot!

     
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    Jan 18, 2012 3:07 PM   in reply to Tontcho

    Tontcho, I hear you loud and clear.  I'm also a professional retoucher, and i've recently lost at least 40 hours of work over a few months to this (or a similar) issue.  I do have a Wacom, but when this happens, i'm not using it.

     

    It's not just gaussian blurring that does it for me though (though it does); for me, it's way worse layers with masks, or groups of layers with masks that really get things tweaked out.

     

    I've done all the usual things (prefs, etc), as well as replaced all the RAM, replaced the GPU, disabled OpenGL, reinstalled the entire CS5 Suite, and still, corruption.

     

    I've gotten into the habit of saving extremely often, but there's been more than once that i've saved while zoomed in without noticing corruption, and therefore killed large and complex (1-2gb, 50+ layers) files.

     

    Anything, literally ANYTHING will help.

     

    Thanks,

    Erik

     

    System:

    10.6.8

    2.66GHz Quad Xeon

    16GB 1066MHz DDR3

    12.0.4 x64

    NVIDIA GeForce GT120

     
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    Jan 19, 2012 5:53 AM   in reply to lclark00

    Pixel bender is ok, it is an Adobe technology: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/pixelbenderplugin/

     

    I'm just an user, but I am wondering:

    Most of the users affected seem to be working in a large environment/corporate/offices.

    Most seem to be usingMac Pros.

    Usually, the files are quite large.

    Is there anything peculiar about them? Smart Objects, Advanced blending, any common denominator?

    I am wondering if they run special software (anti-virus, corporate firewall, back-up solutions) if they work locally, or if the files are located on a server, if there is anything peculiar compared to a regular computer.

    Is time machine activated, on an external or internal disk? Are they all using a wacom tablet?

     
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    Jan 21, 2012 1:40 PM   in reply to lclark00

    Just got the same bug. Didn't even get to apply the Gaussian Blur. Saw the corruption happening while I was in the effect preview, hit cancel but it still messed up my image. Interestingly, it only effected the layer beneath the one I was attempting to apply the blur to. 14 MB RGB file contained 10 layers, 1 layer group, 2 layer masks, 1 adjustment layer, various blending modes throughout. Kind of an average file - which is troubling because it makes me think it can happen at any time.

     

    Like everyone else here, I need to be able to use these editing tools with complete confidence in their reliability. Please help, Adobe. Livelihoods depend on it!!!

     

    Thanks,

    Anthony

     

    System:

    10.7.2

    iMac 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5

    4GB 1333 MHz DDR3

    AMD Radeon HD 6770M

    Photoshop 12.1 x64

     
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    Jan 21, 2012 1:54 PM   in reply to ARubolotta

    Disregard what I said above about it only effecting one layer. Upon reopening the file, corruption has occured throughout.

     

    Work lost.

     

    Very unhappy.

     
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    Jan 23, 2012 9:17 AM   in reply to ARubolotta

    Happened again today, minor file corruption, but massive desktop corruption.

     

    Here's what it looks like (before rebooting): http://imgur.com/a/4NPJK

     

    Good times.

     
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    Jan 23, 2012 11:51 AM   in reply to flat1ine

    That shows a video card driver problem (and probably MacOS 10.7), not a Photoshop document corruption problem.

    Corruption of the Photoshop document would not affect the rest of the system - just that single document in Photoshop.

     
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