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Need a suggestion - Can I use Livecycle Output ES as below

Nov 22, 2011 6:03 PM

My company needs to generate documents on the fly and we are looking to find a solution where we can associate the data elements with the PDF template fields and at runtime we fill in application data to generate the documents.


We don't need anything fancier that this but have following requirements :

1> Our customers need to create PDF templates and the data bindings based on the XSD we provide to them -  What can we do here?

     A. Do they need to have LiveCycle Designer installed on their desktops?

     B. Or, Can we provide a website where we embed the LiveCycle Designer so that the customers can design their PDFs and Data Mappings there?


2> Provided that we get PDF templates with the data bindings can these be transferred across the servers? Meaning can the customers provide us their PDF Templates and we fill the PDFs on the fly on our end using Livecycle Output Server? Does it work this way or the server and the designer both need to be part of one integrated system?


3>Do we need the Enterprise suit for this? Or Output Server and Output designer can be independently purchased and used?


4>The PDFs designed via output designer, can these be used by some third party PDF interpreter software such as iText? Will it retain and expose the data bindings anywhere except the Output Server?


5> What are the pricing for each of these : Output Designer, Output Server and Enterprise Suit?


I am sorry if these are irrelevant questions, but I am not able to find the answers myself anywhere over the Internet.


Any responses will help!

Thanks in advance

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    Nov 23, 2011 8:51 AM   in reply to CODevGroup

    1 - Designer is not available as a web based application.  

    2 - Yes, the template is self contained and can be run on any compatible LiveCycle server

    3 - If all you want to do is design a form, then merge data with the form for a static PDF then you need Output server and LiveCycle Designer

    4 - I'm not familiar with iText, but the PDF generated by Output is complete and complient with the PDF standard. 

    5 - I can't answer pricing questions here.  You'll have to speak with your Adobe Sales Rep to get pricing relivant to your organization.

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    Nov 23, 2011 10:50 AM   in reply to CODevGroup

    The Output server, more properly know as "Adobe LiveCycle Output ES2.5" can be downloaded by getting the LiveCycle ES2.5 Trial (when you do the installation you can select the Output module)


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    Nov 23, 2011 10:59 AM   in reply to Hodmi

    There is a bit of naming confusion going on here; products are being mixed up.
    As well there is a newer version to the ES 2.5 version Hodmi references.


    LiveCycle Designer works with LiveCycle Output; both available as part of the Adobe Digital Enterprise Suite; you can download an evaluation here -
    Under ADEP trial downloads


    We have another, older range of products
    Adobe Output Designer and Adobe Central Pro Output Server. (the link you were looking at)
    These products are older, released before LiveCycle / ADEP; they work well for simple document use cases; but they are old technology and have an end of support date of  June 2016.
    There is no trial download page available; you would need to talk to a adobe rep to get access.


    For new customers we recommend the modern LiveCycle/ADEP product lines.

    You can request that an Adobe rep contact you via - 

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    Nov 23, 2011 12:10 PM   in reply to CODevGroup

    Designer is basically tooling that is bundled with the developer part of the Suite

    You can buy just the Output portion of the suite and Developer/Designer is part of that; you don’t have to buy the entire suite, to use just Output.

    We don't sell Designer separately – but there are standalone installs and as part of a sale it may be possible to work that out.

    The EULA does have language limiting use of the S/W in a the context of a service bureau; which is close to what you are saying where your customers provide you with templates and you use them; not a usual sales pattern for us 

    – so you would likely need to discuss the use case with one of our reps.

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