I just built my dad a new pc and wanted to test out Premiere Pro CS4 as I will also be upgrading my pc in the next year. I wanted to find out what kind of hardware could efficiently run PPcs4 with out blowing the budget.
Cpu - 17 2500k @ 4ghz
Ram - Gskill 4gb 1600mhz ripjaws 2x2gb (2.9gb due to running Windows XP 32 bit)
Video - Intel HD 3000 onboard Graphics (Please note Premiere pro CS4 does not utilize dedicated graphics)
HDD - Samsung f3 Spinpoint 7200rpm drive
So I installed the master collection cs4 and launched premiere pro.
Copied my H.624 1080p 24fps footage from my Nikon 550d to the hard drive.
Launched mpeg streamclip and converted the files to much lighter quicktime format for editing. (suggested conversion settings for my camera and cs4)
Launched Premiere Pro CS4. Created a new sequence and imported some of the converted footage.
Copied the footage to my timeline and hit spacebar (play)
Video played flawlessly for roughly two seconds then the picture would freeze but the audio would keep playing. (a very common problem)
So I started thinking maybe 2.9gb of ram will just not cut it. So I opened windows task manager and clicked on the performance tab to find that I had about 1.2gb of ram free just having PPcs4 open.
While monitoring the available ram I hit play once again to see my ram drop to 800mb free and then the video would freeze. OK FAIR ENOUGH... Looks like I am running out of ram.
I thought I would run a test.... just to make sure it was my ram. The plan being open as many programs as possible to use up all my ram. Then try to play the video again and see if I would get any smooth play back what so ever.
So I opened up around 6 adobe programs from the master collection while monitoring the Task Manager only to realise that every time I would open another program the ram would drop to almost nothing and then I would see my pagefile increase and all of a sudden I would have some more available ram again (in that order).
The more programs I opened the more my pagefile would increase!!!!!
Ok so I see what is happening here... For anyone who does not know what a pagefile is...well it works the same as your ram does except it stores the information on the hard disk instead of in the ram itself. Slower access speeds but the same principal.
Ok well time to test this out... I open up Premiere Pro being the 7th program open at this stage.. copy my media to the timeline and hit play.
Well didn't I get a surprise... the footage played flawlessly!!!! I referred to task manager to see I had next to 0 ram available and my pagefile was constantly increasing.
So what I understand from all this is that....
When I only have PP open and I hit play on the timeline my ram is running out and then it hits a brick wall and say's.. ok I'm all out now I have to switch to the pagefile and this is when the freeze occurs... If I leave it playing (with a frozen frame) after a while I will get a bit of a stutter and the vision will play but only for a split second... (this is when the pc is freeing up ram after having switched to the pagefile and trys to switch back to the ram) FREEZE!!!!
If I deplete all of my ram by opening up a zillion programs the pc say's.... Ok I obviously do not have any where near enough ram to play this stuff instead I am going to use PAGEFILE ONLY which in fact plays back great!!!! (Because of my fast HDD)
Now this is as far as I have got...
My question is....... Is there a setting where you can choose at what point does your ram switch to the pagefile OR even better is there a setting where you can choose premiere pro to use pagefile only!
If I could some how just say to Premiere Pro... I know my ram is low so how about we just use the pagefile and get the job done then I would be sorted!
I understand this is not the ideal sollution... (the obvious sollution is 64 bit operating system and double the ram) but it would mean that if a pc had a fast enough hard drive (Samsung f3 spinpoint 7200rpm for example) and limmited ram the program could still function as intended under a 32 bit operating system.
Anyway leave your thoughts and if you know how to enable the page file only for premiere pro please let me know!!!!
I have a 64 bit OS, 8 gbs of RAM, and the same problem...
Any other ideas?
First, start your own new discussion... and provide enough information for someone to try and help
Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811
What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037
Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below
For PC http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ or http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
For Mac http://mediainfo.massanti.com/
Once you know exactly what it is you are editing, report back with that information...
and your project setting, and if there is a red line above the video in the timeline,
which indicates a mismatch between video and project
More information needed for someone to help http://forums.adobe.com/thread/416679
Some is general about your computer and OS, some is specific to video editing
Build a Configuration file http://www.piriform.com/speccy
Brand/Model Computer (or Brand/Model Motherboard if self-built)
How much system memory you have installed, such as 2Gig or ???
Operating System version, such as Win7 64bit Pro... or whatevevr
-including your security settings, such as are YOU the Administrator
-and have you tried to RIGHT click the program Icon and then select
-the Run as Administrator option (for Windows, not sure about Mac)
Your Firewall settings and brand of anti-virus are you running
Brand/Model graphics card, sush as ATI "xxxx" or nVidia "xxxx"
-or the brand/model graphics chip if on the motherboard
-and the exact driver version for the above graphics card/chip
-and how much video memory you have on your graphics card
Brand/Model sound card, or sound "chip" name on Motherboard
-and the exact driver version for the above sound card/chip
Size(s) and configuration of your hard drive(s)... example below
-and how much FREE space is available on each drive (in Windows
-you RIGHT click the drive letter while using Windows Explorer
-and then select the Properties option to see used/free space)
Windows Indexing is BAD http://forums.adobe.com/thread/676303
While in Properties, be sure you have drive indexing set OFF
-for the drive, and for all directories, to improve performance
Some/Much of the above are available by going to the Windows
Control Panel and then the Hardware option (Win7 option name)
OR Control Panel--System--Hardware Tab--Device Manager for WinXP
And the EXACT type and size of file that is causing you problems
-for pictures, that includes the camera used and the pixel dimensions
Plus Video-Specific Information http://forums.adobe.com/thread/459220
Read Bill Hunt on editing a VOB/MPG file http://forums.adobe.com/thread/464549
Edit Vob http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_import_VOB_files_/_edit _a_DVD
Read Hunt on Using MOD/TOD files http://forums.adobe.com/thread/699990
Work through all of the steps (ideas) listed at http://forums.adobe.com/thread/459220
If your problem isn't fixed after you follow all of the steps, report back with ALL OF
THE DETAILS asked for in the FINALLY section at the troubleshooting link
Also read file troubleshooting http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/407/kb407928.html
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