I am so irritated already by the forum's new habit of jumping to the most recent post that this common forum idea is probably the end of my participation. I simply don't want to read through hundreds of Win subject lines to find something relevant to the Mac, or constantly open threads that turn out to be Win only. I have looked at it, but I am not happy. I'm stuck back at CS2, so many of the posts are not of any interest anyway. My plan to upgrade both computer and software is on indefinite hold until our new socialist man leaves office, and the new guy probably can't solve the problem either, so what's a boy to do?
I'm stuck back at CS2, so many of the posts are not of any interest anyway.
Ya better rethink that position cause once CS6 comes out, you won't be able to upgrade to it from anything older than Photoshop CS5. Adobe has a 20% discount for the upgrade to CS5.x until Dec 31st.
Lundberg, in the new forum, we invite users to label their threads when their issue is system-specific, and moderators have been asked to do so.
The plus is that the threads that are not restricted to a platform, like design ones, will benefit of the knowledge of users of both sides, and IMHO, it will be good for the whole community.
Also, users that only visited one side, will learn stuff from the other one, and might help users from the other platform fix or at least troubleshoot their issues.
Photoshop is one of the last forums up here that has that platform split.
> in the new forum, we invite users to label their threads when their issue is system-specific, and moderators have been asked to do so.
You can wish on a star all you like, it won't happen. Anyone who has been on forums for more than a day knows it.
>Photoshop is one of the last forums up here that has that platform split.
And the only one that still does it right. I don't care about Windows issues. The Lr forum is a perfect example. You never know what OS the person is using and always have to ask before you can help.
I'm sorry, but Lundberg is 100% correct on this. When I saw the new forum I knew exactly what was coming down the road. It's just a matter of time before they merge the forums into one. Adobe never listened to the end-user before, I don't expect they'll start now.
There's no need to "predict", Lundberg02. The Photoshop forums were merged once before, and it was an absolute disaster. That's why they were split again later.
Now they're going to merge them again. As I wrote on the forums forum, morons don't learn from history.
Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is one of the definitions of insanity.
To be frank, I'm mildly amused.
Wo Tai Lao Le
Well, all the scepticism I've seen so far seems to come from one side.
Ah, does it?
I live in the lawless tribal regions of Idaho.
So you have a socialist governor there or what?
Noel changed his mind quickly. And the others are only concerned with one thing: the risk of platform evangelism. Which indicates they have no need for it.
Seriously: we're all here to learn. How can we do that if we seal ourselves off from half the user base, and refuse to have anything to do with them?
We've always had lots of Mac users on the Windows forum. People like yourself, Buko (scandalously banned) and Phos±four dots, to name a few, all extremely helpful and open-minded. Then we had The Reverend Mark Reynolds, full of religious fervor. We got tired of that pretty quickly.
Those names are a blast from the past.
Buko and others; along with some current contributors, may sometimes rub people the wrong way.
The important thing is that most of them; past & current, know what they are doing and can provide helpful solutions.
Some Irish guy named O'bama is trying European Socialism in the US. Our governor is a wind energy nut, but otherwise he's safely reactionary. I show the same tendencies except for the wind energy thing, which a group of us have successfully stopped in its tracks by exposing the idiocy. I didn't know Buko was banned, what did he do, praise Corel Painter 11, which is finally fast enough to actually use?
Well, linguistically speaking I guess if enough people start using a word as an all-purpose slur devoid of its original and historical meaning that word will eventually take on that new meaning.
But as a european I certainly have an outsider’s view on the issue of the current POTUS’ achievements and merits.
Which is widely known. The user ID, Tai Lao, means simply too old in Mandarin. The signature, Wo Tai Lao Le, 我太老了, means I'm too old.
My sporadical participation now will dwindle to practically zero as soon as the Photoshop forums are merged. I read substantially less than half the posts as it is and reply to a small percentage of those I read.
Like Lundberg02, I won't be inclined to wade through a see of Windows-oriented posts.
Wo Tai Lao Le
>My sporadical participation now will dwindle to practically zero as soon as the Photoshop forums are merged.
My guess is most of us Mac users will fade away. Sigh, it used to be so much fun in here, then they banned everyone who made it a place to look forward to. Anyways, old news. Life goes on, even after a merge. It'll just go on elsewhere for me.
Yeah, I miss the old gang. Ann is in the Nikon Forum I guess. I even miss That crazy guy with weird semi french name and the German expert I could not understand even when he wrote perfectly good English. Gerhardt Hofmann or something like that. I saved his stuff and was always going to try to figure it out.
Anyway Merry Christmas everyone.
…the German expert I could not understand even when he wrote perfectly good English. Gerhardt Hofmann or something like that
Prof. Dr. Gernot Hoffmann. http://www.fho-emden.de/~hoffmann/
Right. Gernot. He was obsessive about gamma and a few other things.
But who was the wacko who had his own color theory that everyone knew was crazy. He had some goofy short name like Tami or Niko or something like that. Also, gator soup is one of the old gang, too.
To use a linear gamma when doing image processing...which while not in Photoshop is the basis of the image processing pipelin of ACR/LR. Not, I might add because of Timo but Thomas Knoll thinking keeping linear raw capture linear through the processing was useful.
So, not so nuts, then?
It was nutz enough when he was advocating taking an image that was already in a gamma 1.8 or 2.2 into linear gamma for editing in Photoshop. But that was really before digital capture in raw in linear gamma...big difference.
... I don't care about Windows issues...
I don't care about Windows issues and I don't care about Mac issues. I come to a Photoshop forum to discuss and learn about Photoshop.
As one that uses Photoshop on multiple platforms and pays attention to both the Mac and Windows forums, there is actually very little that is unique to a platform. If platform specific discussions are there, they have been easily ignored.
There is a certain decline of the Photoshop forums and I don't think it is due to banning some of the 'old-timers' or any restructuring of the forum. The internet has simply changed. 10 years ago, a forum or mailing list was the best place to learn about new tools and techniques. Now we have very capable search engines to find information on demand, podcasts/news sites/bloggers to keep us up-to-date, and YouTube/Lynda.com for tutorials. That leaves the Photoshop forums mostly for new users to come to holler "my Adobe is broken". There is little reason for a forum regular to care about what happens to the forum structure. We've already been shuffling toward the exit.
>That leaves the Photoshop forums mostly for new users to come to holler "my Adobe is broken". There is little reason for a forum regular to care about what happens to the forum structure. We've already been shuffling toward the exit.
Think of the savings if *all* forums were merged under a single "Adobe" header!
That is precisely what Adobe did to the international forums (German, French, Spanish, Japanese) where all the Adobe applications are lumped together by language into a single forum.