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GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion

Dec 19, 2011 6:09 PM

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I would like to look for a right video card for CS5.5 or new CS6 video editing only.  I looked at the requirement for my future new PC, but I need your help for providing me more information on the comparsion between GeForce GTX and Quadro.

 

What does GTX have that Quadro does not have?

 

What does Quadro have that GTX does not have?

 

I would like for you to give me a chart on the difference between them like an outline comparsion or column comparsion.

 

Also, what is the maximun of RAM memory for video editing?

 

Thank you

 
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    Dec 19, 2011 6:59 PM   in reply to aeapaskjo

     

    What does GTX have that Quadro does not have?

     

    What does Quadro have that GTX does not have?

     

    I would like for you to give me a chart on the difference between them like an outline comparsion or column comparsion.

     

    Also, what is the maximun of RAM memory for video editing?

     

    Thank you

    1. GTX has performance advantage for general video editing over Quadro
    2. Quadro has 10 bit output, but unless you have a monitor that properly supports 10-bit it will do you no good.

    I have never tested a Quadro, but here are my comparison charts of GPU's and a chart showing a few boards I have tested with CS5.5.

     

    GPU-Cores.jpg

    GPU-test-PPBM5.5.jpg

    There is no maximum RAM, there is a minimum for MPE to work it is (I believe)  896 MB or we typically round it off to 1 GB

     
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    Dec 19, 2011 7:42 PM   in reply to aeapaskjo

    If you don't need the 10 bit color of the Quadro (and most users probably don't), then here's the low down:

     

    GTX will offer better performance for less money.

    Quadro will offer less performance for more money.

     
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    Dec 22, 2011 1:26 AM   in reply to aeapaskjo

    GTX$$$ & Quadro$$$$$$$$$$

     

     

    If you are looking for improvising your performance first make your self next´s question´s:

    What processor do I have: AMD or intel? dual, Quad, Exa core...?

    How much Ram do you have, HDD CONFIG, Overclocking, Cooling etc...

    Get the maximum of your pc before order a $$$$$$$ Video card.

    Gtx 580 can perform 80% of the quadro 5000?

    ...but it always was vice versa...

    quadros were always slower "viewpoint performance" but they're "for some reason" certified autodesk hardware... but for example the gtx295 is also certified.

    the problem is now that there is a driver opengl performance problem reported by some people using the new 4xx series[ a great performance drop down in dcc apps...]

    The GTX580 has 512 cores, running at 772MHz, 1002MHz (Core/RAM)

    The 5000 has 352 cores, running at 513, 750

    You decide. Don't see a reason to buy a Quadro when you cam improving in so many others areas

     
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  • Turgut Unal
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    Dec 23, 2011 4:22 AM   in reply to aeapaskjo

    Hi

    I had beeen had the same question quadro or gtx.

    and made a decisition. I changed my gtx  580  with quadro 4000.

    positives:

    1.Color: Black is like pure black with quadro. And the other colors also. Eventhough my monitor is not 10 bit.

    2.Luminans contrast: Luminasity and contrast of images look like better. This is just feeling and very subjective: Pixel creation way is qutie diffirent. I felt as if I use an  ati card. Much contrast and luminans.

    3.Video quality: This is very very very subjective okey take care : They both do the same thing such as video editing but I feel like quadro final result is better. Maybe I always tick best render and best depth boxes.

    4.Antialias:This is certian quadro is better.

     

    Futuristic:

    Next years and monts will bring a new rule : In video production and news people will use much 3d

    so quadro will be better for me.

     

    negatives

    1.Cuda cores: Yes quadro has less cuda cores

    But here comes a question: Yes cuda core is a horsepower.

    But is it only horse power that pulls my car? No

    here is a case: Ten minuties ago I was having a previev rendering in pp.

    cpu usage %15 gpu:%20 Ram:%50 (hard disk sata ssd 3)

    Some horses must be sleeping

    Why cuda dosent use all my cpu

    İf I would have maximus(how wish I would have) or gtx

    shall it be the same

     

    Please do not just stick on  cuda cores

    Stick on your wishes and plans and your needs

     

    Cuda is very usefull and gooooood

    But not only horsepower

     

    thx

     
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    Dec 23, 2011 5:31 AM   in reply to Turgut Unal

    What you are describing is the use of an uncalibrated monitor. There is no difference in color, contrast, luminance or video quality between GTX or Quadro on a properly calibrated monitor. What you are experiencing is the same as with different TV models. They have different display settings from the factory and without proper calibration, they show different levels of black, luminance, contrast etc. But who uses a TV with factory settings? Who uses a video card with default driver settings? Every editor should calibrate his monitor or TV first.

     

    First calibrate, load the resulting profile into the video card and then you will not see any difference. Your sleeping horses are the result of slow components in your system, like that disk setup. Your sleeping horses are comparable to a low horsepower car but with all gears available. You can put in more horsepower by using a GTX, but if you limit yourself to using only first gear, the difference is negligent.

     
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  • Turgut Unal
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    Dec 23, 2011 8:06 AM   in reply to Harm Millaard

    Hi Sir

    sory but dou you think my system is slow:

    Motherboard:ASUS - Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 Soket

    Processor : i7-980X Processor Extreme Edition @4.2

    Memory :Dominator® GT 12GB Triple Channel DDR3 Memory Kit

    Video Card :Quadro 4000

    Hard Drive :Corsair Force GT 3 120GB

    Hard Drive :Corsair Force GT 3 120GB

    Hard Drive :Corsair Force F240A

    Hard Drive :Corsair Nova V128

    Optical Drive:LG BH12LS38

    Case:Obsidian 800D

    Power Supply:Corsair 1200 Watt

    Sound Card:M audio Audiophile 2496

    MonitorEdit:Samsung T260

    Operating System:Win7 x64 Ult.

     
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    Dec 23, 2011 9:44 AM   in reply to Turgut Unal

    Try the PPBM CS5 Benchmark and you will know. My guess is your score will be in the 200-250 second range.

     
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  • Turgut Unal
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    Dec 24, 2011 9:50 PM   in reply to Harm Millaard

    Very Dear  Millaard:

    You say "There is no difference in color, contrast, luminance or video quality between GTX or Quadro on a properly calibrated monitor."

    Okey but my eyes think diffirent.

    Please lets find a way to test this.

    and create a test set up.

     

    best

    turgut

     
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    Dec 24, 2011 10:12 PM   in reply to Turgut Unal

    Here's the thing, Turbut:

     

    Most LCD (or LED-backlit LCD) monitors are still of the TN panel variety, which can only reproduce 6-bit color. And even a good IPS panel-based monitor can cost $500 to $800. And the lower-priced monitors are increasingly S-IPS (a cheaper version of IPS that sacrifices a bit of image quality in favor of faster response times) or of the VA type (which does not offer the best of both worlds - but rather, the poorer of both worlds). That's because most people want things cheaper, not necessarily better. Thus, if a monitor can't faithfully reproduce the output of even a GTX, let alone a Quadro, why waste the money on such an expensive and slow GPU? Good monitors that can take full advantage of the 10-bit output of a Quadro can cost well into the thousands (or even tens of thousands) of dollars.

     
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  • Turgut Unal
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    Dec 25, 2011 8:30 AM   in reply to RjL190365

    Hiii RjL

    Thx  for knowladge.I wish to have Dell U2711

     

    Im not fan of gtx or quadro.

    but I hope to be fan of Maximus.

    Im fan of speed .

     

    I happened to be the one who edited with high speed game desktops instead of 100000USD avid computers 14 yearsego In my country.

    So we changed the rule.At least three major tv channels asked me to desing desktops for editing with gforce. Thx Lord I happened to have and test all best gforce cards.

     

    NgKids Lansman Film was made  by intell 3.4 HT and gforce 7600 for CINEMA  at home.

    And some news for BBC were made in my Toshiba laptop .

    I know the force of gtx.

     

    4 years ego Lets try quadro fx I said. But I wasnt happy.8800 gtx was hotter for me

    Gtx 480-580 fleid me to the moon.

    And I said lets try quadro new generation. First time Im happy with quadro.

    There must be reason Im trying to find why

     

    best

    turgut

     
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    Dec 25, 2011 9:23 AM   in reply to Turgut Unal

    Strange things happen when you think with your eyes, listen with your nose and see with your ears.

     
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  • Turgut Unal
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    Dec 25, 2011 9:29 AM   in reply to Harm Millaard

    (now the ears of my ears awake and

    now the eyes of my eyes are opened)

                                      e.e.cummings

     
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    Dec 27, 2011 8:15 PM   in reply to RjL190365

    the lower-priced monitors are increasingly S-IPS (a cheaper version of IPS

     

    Uh...may I ask your source on that?  Wikipedia claims that IPS was "plagued by slow response time and a low contrast ratio", and that "IPS has since been superseded by S-IPS (Super-IPS) in 1998, which has all the benefits of IPS technology with the addition of improved pixel refresh timing.

     
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  • Turgut Unal
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    Dec 28, 2011 12:09 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Hiii Millaard

    Wikipedia answers question for quadro vs gforce performance like that:

    The performance difference comes in the firmware controlling the card.[citation needed] Given the importance of speed in a game, a system used for gaming can shut down textures, shading, or rendering after only approximating a final output—in order to keep the overall frame rate high. The algorithms on a CAD-oriented card tend rather to complete all rendering operations, even if that introduces delays or variations in the timing, prioritising accuracy and rendering quality over speed.


     
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