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How to make a proper fade (in&out)

Feb 6, 2012 7:53 AM

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PremierePro CS 5.5 Windows 7 sourch FullHD

Till now I am disappointed by the way premiere makes fades.

I can do it in the effect window by making keypoints or direcly in the timeline setting keypoints but the fades are never proper. They all flickering somewhere.

When I check the fade in the effectwindow by looking at the transparenty of each frame; it is perfect. But when I see the result after rendering or codering many fades are flickering.

How to make the perfect fade?

2362 Views 28 Replies Latest reply: Ann Bens, Feb 9, 2012 8:14 AM

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1. Harm Millaard,

Feb 6, 2012 8:28 AM in reply to BoozAda

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Turn your playback resolution to full.

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2. Bill Hunt,

Feb 6, 2012 9:53 AM in reply to BoozAda

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Welcome to the forum.

Also, for smoothest playback, be sure to Render that portion of your Timeline, by hitting Enter/Return. You can also restrict the Rendering to just the Transition area, with the WAB (Work Area Bar).

Good luck,

Hunt

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3. bertrenolds,

Feb 6, 2012 9:55 AM in reply to BoozAda

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Why not use the dip to black effect under video transitions/dissolve in the effects tab?

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4. Jim Simon,

Feb 6, 2012 1:17 PM in reply to BoozAda

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I see the result after rendering or codering many fades are flickering.

That shouldn't happen and normally doesn't.

What are the properties of your media and your sequence?

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5. Ann Bens,

Feb 6, 2012 1:20 PM in reply to BoozAda

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Do they also flicker when MPE is set to software?

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6. BoozAda,

Feb 7, 2012 1:13 AM in reply to Harm Millaard

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Thank you for you attention.
It is not playback because I see it after codering to dvd/mpg2 on a normal monitor.

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7. BoozAda,

Feb 7, 2012 1:27 AM in reply to bertrenolds

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Thank you for your answer.
I tryed the disolve and I am not sure but it looks good. I have to see tne endresult on the dvd.
But I see that playing it in the timeline, it is playing smoother and more easy.

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8. BoozAda,

Feb 7, 2012 1:41 AM in reply to Jim Simon

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Thank your for your reaction.

proporties of the video:
- XDCAM-HDMovie
- 1920-1080
Frame Rate 25 fps
Avarage Data Rate 4,6 mb/sec
P.A.R 1.0
Compressie type MPEG

Sequence settings
General:
For editing in XDCAM with Blackmagic equiment (my breakout box)
HD 1080 lines 25 fps video (16:9 interlaced) and 48 hz 16 bit audio

Is this what you ment?

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9. BoozAda,

Feb 7, 2012 1:46 AM in reply to Bill Hunt

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Thank you for the reaction and yes I do know that!

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10. BoozAda,

Feb 7, 2012 1:48 AM in reply to Ann Bens

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You mean when I play it in window mediaplayer? And yes I see yhe flickering their.

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11. Ann Bens,

Feb 7, 2012 6:33 AM in reply to BoozAda

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No that is not what i mean.
Do you have a CUDA card?
What are your sequence settings
What is your source exactly
And what are your export settings.
Pref screendumps.

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12. BoozAda,

Feb 7, 2012 7:58 AM in reply to Ann Bens

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I have a Nvidia Quadro FX 1700

proporties of the video:
- XDCAM-HDMovie
- 1920-1080
Frame Rate 25 fps
Avarage Data Rate 4,6 mb/sec
P.A.R 1.0
Compressie type MPEG

Sequence settings
General:
For editing in XDCAM with Blackmagic equiment (my breakout box)
HD 1080 lines 25 fps video (16:9 interlaced) and 48 hz 16 bit audio

and one printscreen of the export settings (could only insert 1 printscreen)
and thanks for your reaction

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13. Ann Bens,

Feb 7, 2012 11:32 AM in reply to BoozAda

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Should have mentioned the Black Magic card right up front.
Make a timeline without the card (native Premiere TL) with the same footage and transitions and see if it still flickers.

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14. cvid01,

Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM in reply to Ann Bens

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In your graphic, item 13, I notice you have spaces between your clips. Close up the spaces and insert your dissolve or fades. PPro does not like empty space.

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15. Jim Simon,

Feb 7, 2012 1:45 PM in reply to cvid01

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PPro does not like empty space.

I create sequences just like this all the time without issue. Been doing so since before Premiere went Pro. This alone should not cause a problem.

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16. bertrenolds,

Feb 7, 2012 2:10 PM in reply to Jim Simon

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It will play it but it won't look right when you encode unless you join up those clips in your timeline and then add the dip to black transition and your good. Once you have the dip to back transition draged to your video clip you can then adjust how it looks in the effect control tab above your preview window.

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17. Jim Simon,

Feb 7, 2012 2:12 PM in reply to bertrenolds

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My exports look exactly the way they do in the sequence, even with gaps. Always have.

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18. bertrenolds,

Feb 7, 2012 2:17 PM in reply to Jim Simon

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Yea, you will have tons of non-video parts that are just black screen unless that is what you are going for but it does show up exactly like it will be in the timeline when you encode and have gaps.

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19. SFL46,

Feb 7, 2012 2:40 PM in reply to BoozAda

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No one has mentioned this yet, but, is the video asset under the fade reasonably constant? does it contain a scene change? does the clip exposure change under the fade? If the video is changing, the fade may appear to flicker as the video is being changed by the motion as well as the fade.

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20. BoozAda,

Feb 8, 2012 1:02 AM in reply to bertrenolds

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To all the reactions about the gaps.
This should not be a problem because I export with the WAB (Work Area Bar) and choose only the video to export.

And the fade is placed on one piece of video without changing.

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21. BoozAda,

Feb 8, 2012 1:21 AM in reply to Ann Bens

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The blackmagic should be the problem!!??
It is an important part of my system. With blackmagic I can see my video on a good monitor in stead of only on the pcmonitor.
Why do you think that their is a problem?

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22. Ann Bens,

Feb 8, 2012 2:32 AM in reply to BoozAda

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You need to find out what is causing the problem.
Premiere does not have issues with keyframing opacity.
If you use a 3rd party card that is the first place to look.
Thats why you have to make a Premiere native timeline with the same footage and transitions then export.
If the export is fine you will know it is the card or the card's software.
If the export shows the same flickering we have to look elsewere.
Like is Premiere updated, is your grafics card updated etc.
You can also put a transparant video or blanc title under the transition; see it that will help.

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23. BoozAda,

Feb 8, 2012 3:31 AM in reply to Ann Bens

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I made a project and sequence not though Blackmagic and have the same flickering.
And by the way erevy think is updated; last week a compleet new installation of the pc.

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24. Ann Bens,

Feb 8, 2012 3:37 AM in reply to BoozAda

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OK.
If you have MPE hardware on, turn that off and see if there is any difference.
try the transparant video or a regular transition.

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25. Magnus Allgurén,

Feb 8, 2012 11:27 AM in reply to BoozAda

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I ran into this problem today as well! What I had to do instead of dissolving to "nothing", I had to dissolve to either a black clip or move my media up one track and put a solid black underneath the dissolve to nothing. Worked perfectly, but not sure why it happens!

Oh, and my source material is XDCAM 1080p29.97, so maybe it's a source format issue?

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26. BoozAda,

Feb 9, 2012 5:28 AM in reply to Magnus Allgurén

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Hi Magnus, thank you for your answer.
I tryed the blackvideo and yes the first fade was good but by the second and more one's same problem.
Ans yes i have 25 fps. I going on to try.

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27. BoozAda,

Feb 9, 2012 5:29 AM in reply to Ann Bens

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I do not understand MPE on. I have no gpu asssist if it has a connection with that.

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28. Ann Bens,

Feb 9, 2012 8:14 AM in reply to BoozAda

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MPE is Mercury Playback Engine. This can be set to software or if the a appropriated card is installed to GPU acceleration. But you have it turned off.

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