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Editing a page layout for Blurb Book Module

Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM

Tags: #lightroom #photo #change #edit #4 #layout #book #page #beta #textbox #blurb #imagebox

I've been trying to use Lightroom 4 Beta - Book Module to print a Blurb Photo Book. It has a lot of predefined templates. But I need to change the layout a little bit on some of them, like making text box bigger. Blurb's BookSmart lets you do that.

 

How can I edit/ change the page layout including having more text or image boxes?

 

Rahul

 
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    Jan 25, 2012 4:53 PM   in reply to BFFRAHUL

    I have found that the videos by Julianne Kost are very helpful:

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL66FBC9F268C533EF

     
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    Jan 26, 2012 12:00 AM   in reply to BFFRAHUL

    You can only select from available templates at this point in time, so you'd need to click on the little arrow at the bottom right of the page and select a different template.  You can then adjust that using cell padding to allow extra flexibility in the layout.  For text, there are text cells in the templates, plus there are page and photo captions in the right hand panels.  Again, the text positioning can be adjusted within the cell bounds using the padding sliders.

     
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    Feb 3, 2012 3:44 AM   in reply to BFFRAHUL

    The book-module is a wonderfull idea. And the choose of Blurb as the book-partner is very good. But please - let Lightroom 4 match all the functionality of Blurb's BookSmart. We need the posibility to change the layout and making our own templates. Also it will be very nice if we can import templates and books from Blurb's BookSmart to Lightroom 4.

     
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    Feb 3, 2012 3:23 PM   in reply to BFFRAHUL

    The book module is not a bad for version 0.x. It has some potential. I would also  like to see the ability to create templates and change layouts. I wasn't too hampered on book pages, although I had to keep reapplying my text style.  I didn't like the cover templates selections or more importantly the linking of the front and back covers. There was a front cover and a back cover I would consider.  Unfortunately they weren't on the same template.

     
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    Feb 8, 2012 2:10 PM   in reply to kozicki

    No, these layouts are not nearly flexible enough.... or I need a written instruction manual which covers all options available for every control on the right hand page.  For example, how can you add a text block to a photo page, like the two page spreads?  They don't offer a two page spread with text, even though that is a standard kind of layout for title pages, etc. And all the text options are blanked out or non functional when you are in a photo-only layout page.   I like how you can move the photo and resize it -- but then I want to add text anywhere I want.  Is there an option to do that? 

     

    Video instructions are pleasant to listen to, but they are not nearly as complete nor as useable and re-useable as having all the options in a searchable information manual.  Thanks to all and to Adobe.

     

    Gary

     
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    Feb 9, 2012 10:49 AM   in reply to Gary Braasch

    I accept this is beta 0.x.

     

    Feeedback. 

     

    Text Boxes.

    The handling of text boxes is unworkable.  If I auto fill a text box with a caption larger than the text box, you cannot select the text or adjust the text. If I make the text smaller, then the text that is not visible retains the previous font size.

    One cannot select all the text in a text box by triple clicking (a standard way to select text). This is completely unworkable.

     

    No clear way(I can see)  of setting default font styles for text. There is an option at autoload, but I cannot enter a text style I have created.  Not sure rules for default text in text boxes.

     

    Great to see Title and Caption partial autoload facility.  However at a min it should also include Headline (used instead of Title by many) and why limit to just those fields).

     

    Edit Page Layouts.

    I second all the comments above  re adjusting picture or text box position, styles and default behaviour  and saving your own templates. There should also be an option in text boxes to auto-fill with a configurable metatdata field.  I am really really frustrated that  the print module is still incomplete at version 4, where I cannot properly  place metadata where I want on a template.  I have great fears that exactly the same will happen with this new module, where a lot of real good work is done, but crippled by not properly completing the basic feature set required.

     

    In my view, without these basic features in the Book module is not usable. I was going to do a trial book using Lightroom 4 and Blurb, but have abandoned that idea now.

     

    I am keeping my fingers crossed that the final version will add the vital last important bits.

     
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    Feb 9, 2012 11:00 AM   in reply to Victoria Bampton

    Ok for beta version, but unworkable for any books I have completed to-date. Not practical to tweak every page in a book because the default templates are rigid, default fonts and sizes are incorrect. Error prone and inconsistent results if adjustments need to be made to almost every page in a book.  My hope for this module is that templates can be edited and saved and that the engine behind the scene will ensure that appropriate sharpening is done relative to the size of the finished image size.

     
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    Feb 12, 2012 6:33 AM   in reply to BFFRAHUL

    I have made over 20 books and published with Blurb.  I started with BookSmart and found it to be too restrictive, so I moved on to InDesign.  To be honest InDesign is overkill for what I do.  When LR Beta was released i shouted hallelula all my prayers are answered.  I did not realise that it did not have the basic capability of BookSmart which was to create your own page templates and save them.  I am not sure who designed the templates both for text and images, but they are way out of touch with what other people I have spoken to want and need to have a successful, simple publishing experience.  You need to provide the ability to create page templates, or just DROP the book module.  Please provide this featrue for the commercial release!  All othe other fetures are too good,but without this it stop me from buying it.

     
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    Feb 12, 2012 9:18 AM   in reply to TexRail49

    I'd like to advertise a feature request to get your votes:

    http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom4_empow er_the_print_module_to_create_custom_templates_for_book_module

     

    Please comment there as to how much your needs would be covered by this request. Or refine it there.

    Thanks,

    Cornelia

     
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    Feb 12, 2012 9:39 AM   in reply to Cornelia-I

    I have already voted for this feature.  I really like the idea of getting templates working correctly in the print module and then migrate to the book module. Genius. 

     

     

     

    I have already used InDesign  to create a Blurb Book.  Completely overkill and suffers from one major disadvantage…. One cannot create templates, which will transfer the metadata from the underlying images, so you have to transcribe all your text.  I assume similar challenges for Illustrator.

     
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    Feb 15, 2012 8:47 AM   in reply to BFFRAHUL

    Another vote for adding the ability to edit/create templates for the book module.  I voted on the link above as well.

    Thanks.

     
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    Feb 15, 2012 12:41 PM   in reply to Cornelia-I

    It's got my vote.  I bet I'll end up creating templates that I use over and over again, so long term it wouldn't matter, but it would certainly be helpful to be able to use familiar software rather than learning something new.

     
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    Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM   in reply to TexRail49

    + 1 vote. I have suggested this about 2 weeks ago on the feature request site. But the thread had "miraculously" disappeared the following day. I guess it's not high up on the list.

     
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