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glyphs for text threading

Feb 24, 2012 8:22 AM

Tags: #layout #glyphs #text_threading

Hi,

 

Might be a stupid question but I'm looking to find an automatic way of inserting glyphs / symbols to indicate when text flows onto another page and for when text has ended!

 

Any ideas welcomed!!

 

Many thanks

1101 Views   10 Replies   Latest reply: Peter Spier, Feb 25, 2012 5:03 AM
 
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  • Peter Spier
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    1. Peter Spier,
    Feb 24, 2012 8:29 AM   in reply to Oli_Wales
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    Text threading is already indicated in the layout view with little symbols in the in and out ports of the frames, and you can show the connecting lines if you like. The end of a story is indicated by the non-printing # character that is visible when you show non-printing characters. There is no marker for threading inside the text, but the various breaks also have non-printing characters that can be revealed.

     

    What is it that you want to do that requires this?

     
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    2. Oli_Wales,
    Feb 24, 2012 1:53 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    That's great thanks, but I'm after characters that are visible when printed, I've seen it throughout several magazines, where an article spans 2 or more pages and the text continuation is indicated by an arrow or forward symbol at the end of the last column, and also symbols to indicate when the article has ended. I'm sure there's a term for this in publishing, and wondered if it was something that could be achieved in InDesign, saves doing it manually.

     
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    Feb 24, 2012 2:09 PM   in reply to Oli_Wales
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    I've seen the end of story dingbat called a "bug" in a few places. You add that as the last character yourself.

     

    Likewise, you can add another frame with your arrow glyph, add some text wrap, and put it above the lower corner of the text frame. Save one as a snippet or in a library if you want to use it a lot.

     
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  • winterm
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    4. winterm,
    Feb 24, 2012 2:47 PM   in reply to Oli_Wales
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    afaik, special symbols / glyphs inserted at the end of story are called "dingbats", at least InDesign Bible uses that...

    About technique of inserting such characters, I guess, this article of David Blatner might be interesting for you:

    http://indesignsecrets.com/insert-a-special-character-with-grep-styles .php

     
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    Feb 24, 2012 2:48 PM   in reply to winterm
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    Dingbat is a general term for a pictorial glyph, and is not reserved for the end of a story. I'm not sure there is any consensus on a term for one in that position, but as I said, "bug" is commonly used among printers I know.

     
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    Feb 24, 2012 2:50 PM   in reply to winterm
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    Jive has been screwing up links this week. try this: http://indesignsecrets.com/insert-a-special-character-with-grep-styles .php

     
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  • winterm
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    7. winterm,
    Feb 24, 2012 2:58 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    oh, sorry, just re-checked and it seems, I misread it. Yes, its just for symbols, that's ok.

    however, article is rather interesting on topic, I just can't get rid of space before dotphp, and link is not working for me...

    however, simple copy-paste helps...

     

    @Peter:

    huh, yours is working...

    well, that's what they call 'touch of a genius'

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    8. Peter Spier,
    Feb 24, 2012 4:05 PM   in reply to winterm
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    I blame Jive, not anything you did.

     
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    9. Oli_Wales,
    Feb 25, 2012 1:12 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    Great thanks guys! A shame there isn't a more easier way of doing this (on a 128 page publication it can get a tad tiresome) but helps loads!

     

    Cheers

     
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    10. Peter Spier,
    Feb 25, 2012 5:03 AM   in reply to Oli_Wales
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    You could consider putting the glyph on your master page. if it's on the same layer as the text, it would behind it rather than in front but text wrap would still work, though overriding it would be a bit of a hassle for changing or deleting it. Adding another layer above the regualr text, as you might need to do with a page number marker that needs to appear in front of a background image, is another possibility and would keep it accessible.

     
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