Rebate is correct as an English (British) woodworking term. Not certain about it being used for cabinet hardware. In American English, that type of pull would be called a "recessed pull."
In looking in the UK via Google:
http://www.bkservicesonline.co.uk/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath =7_16_417
where it is called a "flush inset" pull for the above site and example.
Take care, Mike
Thanks Mike. We are using Icelandic and UK English here (a bi-lingual website).
I think rebated pull fits the bill pretty well and handle for the others (4–6).
I do a bit of carpentry myself but the word rebate (pron. rabbit and not to be confused with the long-eared version) had just slipped my mind.
Reckon I must've been living in foreign parts too long :-)
Steve.
Technically speaking, it isn't a rebate nor rabbet (for the 'Mericuns such as me, though I use the British term in my woodworking).
Because it is a blind hole, it is a mortise nor matter the English used. Doesn't matter if it is square, rectangular nor circular. It's a mortise.
Jacob's term(s) is the more accurate one, despite the retailer I linked to.
Take care, Mike
(a recovering woodworker)
The stuff's out on the web now and rebated pull it was.
The top one is definitely rebated.
The other two are, yes, mortised if you like but a mortise is usually part of a joint and needs a tenon to fit in it.
Anyway these days the mortising is done with a router and you can't really talk about routed handles or pulls. without taking a route down a rabbit hole.
A blind rabbit hole is usually black. Hence the term for those wonga-wonga-like things that whizz round in space after having flown up their own fundamental orifices.
No-one has ever seen one but they must be there because everyone says so. "Oh, let us never ever doubt / What nobody is sure about." (Belloc)
Steve,
We are in deep details here (luckily far from being deep in something else), where things become a bit woolly and pleasantly challenging, especially since the number of terms is smaller than that of the items they decribe, especially when uses are taken into account.
Before suggesting anything, I had a look in the OED to make sure I was remembering what I thought I was remembering, and from that I would say that a rebate is a through thing, from end to end of the edge, and that a mortise can be there without a tenon, serving a rather wide range different purposes, the combined term only appearing in the second sense in the OED.
By the way, the word rebate is consistently listed in dictionaries with reebait mentioned before rabbit, as some of us (still, maybe sillily so) prefer it; and in my other favourite dictionary, which is very distinct in its distinction between BE and AE, rabbet is listen as another word for rebate.
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Doubtless. And to further confound matters the manufacturers of the aforesaid items (who are Italian which doesn't help at all) call them all handles regardless of whether they are mortised, countersunk, rebated or otherwise attached. Which is why I had to find them a name both in English and Icelandic. "Inngripshöldur" was the Icelandic conclusion and seems logical "holds for gripping in".
And by the way, a rebate doesn't necessarily go all the way from end to end of an edge. It may just as well be cut out with a chisel from part of an edge. For longer rebates you use a rebating plane.
...a rebate doesn't necessarily go all the way from end to end of an edge...
Yep, a blind rebate. I failed to notice the top one closely enough. Though I would probably have called that one a recessed pull as well ![]()
Anyway, it's been a pleasant diversion away from pixels and bits.
Take care, Mike
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