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How to work with video that needs to be rotated

Mar 7, 2012 1:22 PM

Hi all,


I have some video that was shot with a cell phone set on a table on its side. The result is all of the subjects are off 90 degrees. I know this isn't close to the correct way to shoot video, but it was given to me and I want to make the best of it.


I am able to rotate 90 degrees clockwise in PrE. Then I created a test output file, an AVI>DV-NTSC-Standard, and the output has black bars on both sides. I'm sure I'll have to live with that. However, the audio is out of sync, too. My goal is to create something that will be played on a Windows computer projected on a screen.


Can somebody suggest the best project and output settings? Here is what MediaInfo told me about the source files, which are .3gp files.





Complete name                            : C:\Users\....\VIDEO0051.3gp

Format                                   : MPEG-4

Format profile                           : 3GPP Media Release 4

Codec ID                                 : 3gp4

File size                                : 141 MiB

Duration                                 : 6mn 30s

Overall bit rate                         : 3 029 Kbps



ID                                       : 2

Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual

Format profile                           : Simple@L6

Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes

Format settings, QPel                    : No

Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints

Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)

Codec ID                                 : 20

Duration                                 : 6mn 29s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 3 000 Kbps

Nominal bit rate                         : 256 Kbps

Width                                    : 800 pixels

Height                                   : 480 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 1.667

Frame rate mode                          : Variable

Frame rate                               : 23.900 fps

Minimum frame rate                       : 1.996 fps

Maximum frame rate                       : 473.684 fps

Color space                              : YUV

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.327

Stream size                              : 139 MiB (99%)

Title                                    : VideoHandle

Language                                 : English



ID                                       : 1

Format                                   : AMR

Format/Info                              : Adaptive Multi-Rate

Format profile                           : Narrow band

Codec ID                                 : samr

Duration                                 : 6mn 30s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 12.8 Kbps

Channel(s)                               : 1 channel

Sampling rate                            : 8 000 Hz

Bit depth                                : 13 bits

Stream size                              : 609 KiB (0%)

Title                                    : SoundHandle

Writing library                          :   

Language                                 : English

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    Mar 7, 2012 1:35 PM   in reply to jumpyg2

    For each Clip, go to Effects Tab, and with the Clip Selected, choose Edit Effects.


    There you will see the Fixed Effects, Motion, Opacity and Rotation. Choose Rotation, and then just adjust as needed.


    Note: you will then end up with portrait orientation, in a horizontal Video Frame, so will likely want to use Motion>Scale, and possibly Motion>Position to fill the Frame, or leave the black bars.


    Good luck,



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    Mar 7, 2012 1:36 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Note: if you have multiple Clips that need Rotation, just adjust the first Clip, as is needed, and then Rt-click on that Clip, choosing Copy. Next, Select all other such Clips, Rt-click on them, and choose Paste Attributes to Rotate them too.


    Good luck,



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    Mar 7, 2012 1:37 PM   in reply to jumpyg2

    It's going to be a challenge because your video source isn't a good fit for Premiere Elements AND it's sideways. But here's probably your best chance.


    First, change your video clips' suffixes from AVI to MP4. That will make it less confusing for the program.


    Then start a new project and select, for your project settings, the Flip Mino standard definition preset.


    Import your video into the project and rotate it. Then press Enter to render your timeline.


    Try outputting a test video using Share/Computer/MOV at its default settings and then play the results in Quicktime Player.

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    Mar 8, 2012 4:38 AM   in reply to jumpyg2

    I converted the only 3GP file I found on my computer to DV using Aimersoft Video Converter Pro. It converted well, video and sound (blurred but the original is 176x144 and I blew it up to DV 720x576.


    Generally I find that Aimersoft Video Converter Pro handles just about anything I throw at it. They have a free trial that will let you see if it converts your file OK.





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