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Using PDF from a print magazine to make a DPS magazine

Dec 16, 2011 5:37 AM

Tags: #publishing #pdf #dps #ipad #magazine

Hello all,

 

I'm new here and I have a simple question that I wasn't able to find an answer on this forum. Is there a easy way to use the PDF generated from a print magazine to publish using DPS?

 

What I want is to launch a simple DPS app in which I publish the PDF from a print magazine, without interactivity apart from Pinch&Zoom.

 

I know I can do this if I create a series of articles in Indesign with the PDF pages placed inside those Indesign articles.

 

I was wondering if there was a simple way to do it, something like uploading PDF files directly into .folios as articles.

 

Thank you so much and all the best

 

Pedro Monteiro

 
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    Dec 16, 2011 5:45 AM   in reply to whatype

    Straight answer: No.

     

    You can certainly place all the PDFs into 1024x768 InDesign pages but the result is going to be less than stellar.

     

    You might just as well distribute the PDF.

     

    Bob

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 5:46 AM   in reply to whatype

    Nope, you need several indesign files.

     

    If you only need the articles to sit next to each other (instead of going

    down), you can work with one indesign file and choose "horizontal swipe

    only"

     

    This has some other disadvantages (only one page in the auto-toc).

     

    But I think there are scripts to import a PDF file into one indesign file

    page by page.

     

    —johannes

     

    (mobil gesendet)

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 11:42 AM   in reply to whatype

    You can upload the PDF as HTMLResources.zip. and show it inside the webview or internal browser.

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 12:16 PM   in reply to whatype

    During the beta process I specifically asked Adobe to include sometype of PDF functionality into their publishing system. All my documents are PDFs and you really can't use the Digital Publishing system if your original material is PDF. Bob keeps giving the line that you should just distribute the PDF, but I don't know why this is so difficult for Adobe to figure out. Isn't PDF an Adobe format?

     

    You CAN import a huge PDF into inDesign using the MulitPage PDF importer script (See: http://www.indesignsecrets.com/placing-all-the-pages-of-a-pdf-inside-i ndesign.php) But since the pages are usually 8.5x11" nothing displays correctly in the iPad format. Aquafadas.com can take 8.5x11 indesign pages and jam them through Photoshop to create pages that fit perfectly on the iPad. But their system has other problems.

     

    Right now, I know of no really good solution.

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 12:28 PM   in reply to Shortie2

    For starters, I don’t work for Adobe. Secondly, PDF is an open file specification and its intent is as a final destination, not to be altered.

     

     

     

    Bob

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 12:35 PM   in reply to Shortie2

    Like you said, there is simply no really good solution to that.

    You need to manually adjust the layout to fit the iPad screen. And the file

    format is completly different (folio vs. PDF) because of their different

    output intends.

     

    In your workflow is something wrong if your "original format" is PDF. Like

    bob said, PDF is no original format, it's only the last format at the end

    of a workflow, somehow.

     

    If your pdfs were created using indesign and you can get your hands on to

    that, you have a good solution at your hand.

     

    —Johannes

     

    (mobil gesendet)

    Am 16.12.2011 21:16 schrieb "Shortie2" <forums@adobe.com>:

     

    **

       Re: Using PDF from a print magazine to make a DPS magazine  created by

    Shortie2 <http://forums.adobe.com/people/Shortie2> in *Digital Publishing

    Suite* - View the full discussion<http://forums.adobe.com/message/4089690#4089690>

     

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 1:42 PM   in reply to Johannes Eckert

    My PDFs are entirely created by software. Data is charted and pulled from several different databases, combined, formatted and outputted as a report in PDF. It would cost us over $100,000 in programming expense to rewite our code. DPS should be able to take-in PDFs and format them for display on the iPad. Like I said, Aquafadas can do it, but Adobe can't.

     

    As it stands, right now...I know of no perfect solution to get a PDF into DPS.

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 1:57 PM   in reply to Bob Levine

    Oh, I thought you worked for Adobe. Sorry if you were offended.

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 1:58 PM   in reply to Shortie2

    PDFs really were intended to be final stage, archive snapshots, specific to a given output (e.g. tabloid sized paper). 

     

    That's the "formatted & outputted" part of the process you described.

     

    It is very probable that the software you use creates an intermediate file of "charted and pulled" data, probably in XML or something similar, which it uses as input for the format/output stage, and it is those intermediate/temporary files that will probably be the best inputs for InDesign/DPS....

     
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    Dec 16, 2011 2:48 PM   in reply to Timothy Heck

    If you just need non-interactive pdfs to be wrapped into a an ipad app the DPS solution is nonsense. There is a growing number of flip-book type solutions which offer automated conversion of pdfs into apps.

     

    Tomek

     
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    Dec 18, 2011 7:37 PM   in reply to Tomek Kuczborski

    Hi,

     

    If you want to go this route, you could consider the following things:

     

    • Write a script (or do it manual) that does the following tasks:
      • Place 2 pages of you PDF in a 'horizontal' article (as a spread) - resulting in 1 page
      • Create an article with 2 pages of your PDF in a 'vertical article) - resulting in 2 pages
      • Save this as seperate _v / _h files
    • Create a new folio with default image format 'PDF'
    • Import the _v / _h files and set 'Horizontal Swipe only' for the Vertical Article.

     

    This will give you a '2 up' view in the Horizontal view (Spread) and a '1 up' view (and swipe to the right for next page) in the Vertical view

     

    With kind regards,

     

    Klaasjan Tukker

    Adobe Systems

     
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    Mar 8, 2012 2:49 AM   in reply to whatype

    Hello

     

    "There's an app for that"

     

    http://www.pdf2dps.com

     
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    Mar 8, 2012 6:12 AM   in reply to pdf 2 dps

    Sounds cool! I will check it out.

     

    Is there a demo version?

     

    Can you pinch and zoom too?

     

    Does it convert PDFs to jpgs using Photoshop or do I just need inDesign?

     
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    Mar 8, 2012 6:55 AM   in reply to pdf 2 dps

    Wow, cool tool! Can I change the license (MAC-Adress) after testing from test- to production-enviroment?

     
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    Mar 8, 2012 8:17 AM   in reply to whatype

    We just added a demo version on the web site.

     

    Pinch and zoom is possible if you create your articles in pdf mode.

    Up till now, iPad only. Hope Adobe will give this possibility soon on Android devices too.

     

    You just need InDesign, no use of Photoshop.

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 1:01 AM   in reply to pdf 2 dps

    The Saints has released its PDFtoTablet service for Adobe DPS users. The PDF is converted into a Folio file and automatically uploaded into the DPS account. It contains the following features:

     

    • Pinch and zoom
    • Preview page
    • Automatic spread (portrait as 1 page, landscape 2 pages)
    • Table of contents
    • Stitch function
    • page by page rendering (so it will show your magazine extremely fast)
    • multiple renditions
    • Publish whenever you want

     

    Send an e-mail for more information to tristan@the-saints.nl and we will provide you with pricing details and a test account.

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 3:30 AM   in reply to whatype

    here is just a link to another

     

    next generation PDF4DPS solution

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1074657?tstart=0

     

    kind regards

     
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