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Computer configuration for video editing?

Mar 22, 2012 3:16 PM

Hi, I have spent many hours reading through everything I could find on a new computer configuration but as my knowledge is so limited I find myself still baffled. Please spoon feed me.

 

My main computer use is lots of video editing in Premiere Elements 10 as well as Lightroom 4 editing. No gaming.

 

My thinking so far:

Sandy Bridge i7 2600K  3.4 GHz Quad Cor processor.

M/Board – Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 1155

4x4 GB Transcend Jetram DDR3  1333

Does that seem appropriate so far?

 

I have, and hope to be able to use:

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.

Internal Hard Drives: 2x Samsung 1TB SATA.

Internal Hard Drive:   1x Seagate 2TB 5900RPM 3.5” SA 5YD17W4A.

Internal Hard Drive:   1x Western Digital 2TB SATA WCAZA4364457.

Case – Gigabyte x7 black chassis 24ZX7BMD40000RSN023AD5709 (Don’t have to keep this one)

 

Next is the Graphics Card debate.

I can’t find a list of Adobe recommended graphics cards for Premier Elements 10 & Lightroom 4. Heat and cooling implications. Onboard graphics Intel HD graphics 3000. One thread said that they could be used in conjunction with each other using Quick Sync on a Z68 motherboard, while another thread said that one should get a sufficiently capable Cuda card and disable the onboard HD 3000 graphics, but this was related to Premiere Pro and a different m/board and not specifically Premiere Elements 10 or Lightroom 4. Please could you give me the details of a Video Card that would work well with the recommended configuration and Premiere Elements 10 and Lightroom 4. I understand that spending money on a good Video Card can make a huge difference to processing times of HD video.

 

Adobe spec said Color monitor with 16-bit color video card.  Is this video card the same as the graphics card above?

 

A good Power supply (PSU?) and case. Recommendations if possible please. I read something about turbo boost needing accurate volts. Does this apply to the above configuration? Someone recommended Corsair 120 watt P/S - very silent ?

 

A CPU cooler?

 

I would really appreciate your input. This is completely foreign territory for me. My last computer only lasted 18 months as it was too underpowered. I don’t want to make the same mistake again so would rather be slightly over powered than underpowered.

 

Other threads have got me this far so many thanks for your help already.

Linda

 
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    Mar 22, 2012 3:29 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    >graphics cards for Premier Elements 10 & Lightroom 4

     

    PrElements currently does not make any special use of extended graphics card abilities... so any good card will work, 512Meg or more will work

     

    If you EVER think you will move up to Premiere Pro, you want an nVidia card to take advantage of hardware assisted video processing

     

    For a list of supported nVidia CUDA cards go to the FAQ

    First read http://forums.adobe.com/thread/773101

    PPro Video FAQ http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-118.htm

    http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/premierepro_current/cs5_faq _sheet

    Quadro cards compared http://forums.adobe.com/thread/910140

    http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2011/02/cuda-mercury-playba ck-engine-and-adobe-premiere-pro.html

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    For "some" others, with at least 1Gig of video ram, use the nVidia Hack http://forums.adobe.com/thread/629557 - which is a simple entry in a "supported cards" file

     

    >Corsair 120 watt P/S

     

    If you really mean at 1,200 watt unit... yes

     

    >CPU cooler?

     

    Go to a place like Newegg and search for what they have for your model CPU, to replace the stock cooler

     

    I use http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057 on my older CPU... use something similar

     
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    Mar 22, 2012 4:36 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    Linda,

     

    Regarding overall system specs and "balance" you seem to be right on track; don't feel baffled, your "many hours of reading" have paid off!

     

    Regarding drives, suggest:

    - small SSD for OS/programs (ie Crucial M4 128GB or Intel 320 series 120GB)

    - 2x1TB (or substitute 2 or 3 TB drives considering your space needs and budget); I'm really loving my 2 and 3TB Hitachi 7k3000 series drives - very fast

     

    Regarding video, suggest something with at least a GB of fast DDR5 RAM; RAM speed does make a difference when moving quickly through photos (Bridge, Lightroom, etc.). I also agree with John that if you ever plan on moving up to Premiere Pro CS5.5 getting a GTX gamers card (ie GTX 460 470 etc) is very important to tap the power of Adobe's MPE (Mercury Playback Engine) technology to make HD video editing SO MUCH FASTER! Check out the MPE thread on the CS5 forum if you want more information about that.

     

    Regarding power supply, suggest high quality, large fan p/s's of at least 850 watts will give you a stable, quiet system.

     

    Regarding case, suggest an open design with 200mm or larger front fan for quiet and cool, or one of the design with baffles or a front cover (another way to keep the noise down).

     

    Agree w/ John, get a good cooler. The i7 2600k is very easy to overclock and will give you a noticable performance gain. And, even if you are scared of overclocking, a 3rd party cooler is still suggested - quieter and keeps cpu cooler.

     

    Regards,

     

    Jim

     
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    Mar 24, 2012 10:19 AM   in reply to LindaColli

    Linda for the cooler get the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO with a second fan for push-pull operation

     

    You may have to install a rear exhaust fan in the cupboard.

     
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    Mar 24, 2012 12:28 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    >recommend against the cupboard?

     

    YES !!!

     

    Video editing in general, and some/most HD codecs in particular, put a large load on the hardware... especially the CPU

     

    Heat is the enemy of hardware... you not only need LOTS of fans to blow cool air into the case, you need that case where the heated air will be blown out the back of the case

     

    All power supplies go inside the case, in the "special" spot reserved for the power supply

     

    Go to the CS5 Benchmark http://ppbm5.com/ and look at the results

     

    I have an 850watt PS http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694 which is plenty for my total hardware

     

    To verify the size you need (850watt minimum)

    Power supply calculator http://extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp (the PRO version)

     
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    Mar 24, 2012 3:09 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    Linda,

     

    Regardging housing your PC in the cupboard, I would agree with John if you cannot modify it. I actually run a fully configured overclocked PC in a HAF 932 case in a cabinet, but the front doors are left cracked open and the entire of the back of the cabinet has been removed so hot air can escape easily. So, for your case, if you or someone you know can remove the entire back of the cupboard (behind the PC), then it should work just fine.

     

    Regarding the 932 case fans, you don't need to buy any more fans, but I would suggest doing the following modifications so that you have a nice air flow - whether or not you end up putting it in the your cupboard:

    1) Relocate large top fan to side (blowing "in")

    2) Plug holes on top of case and on bottom of case (in front of where the power supply sits) with some black cardboard and packing tape. If you do this from the inside of the case it will still look "finished" from the outside of the case

    3) The power supply (AX850 should be just fine) should be mounted at the lower rear of the case with the "inlet" fan facing down. That way cool air with come in from beneath the case (feet raise it up plenty) and exit the back of the case to cool the power supply.

     

    Regarding the video card, for your situation the "best deal" you can get on the 3 cards you mention should be fine, just make sure the memory is at least 1GB for the one you select.

     

    Regards,

     

    Jim

     
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    Mar 24, 2012 7:44 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    For your overclocking needs I can recomment   the Asus P8Z68 V pro motherboard with plenty of Sata connections and automatic overclocking with the included AI suite app:

    one click and oops the cpu runs at 4.4Ghz.(with the above suggested cpu cooler)

     
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    Mar 27, 2012 12:58 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    Linda,

     

    There have been two different Z68-UD5 boards from Gigabyte: The original GA-Z68X-UD5-B3 (which lacks a video out and most of the goodies that come with the Z68 chipset, and therefore is little more than a P67 motherboard with Intel's SRT added on), and the newer GA-Z68XP-UD5 (which has an HDMI port for video-out from the CPU's integrated IGP, and therefore supports QuickSync and Virtu - and as such is a newer board that's more likely to fully support the new Ivy Bridge (e.g. i7-37##) CPUs (which are tentatively scheduled to come out at the end of next month) with their PCI-e 3.0 hub integrated). When the Z68XP came out, the original Z68X was discontinued.

     

    On the other hand, the GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 has never been updated since it was first introduced: As a premium board that's (over)loaded with many premium features, there is no room at all whatsoever to even include a video out for the IGP. As such, my comment on the UD7 is the same as the original GA-Z68X-UD5-B3.

     

    And both of the boards that do not have video out will restrict the PCI-e 3.0 operation of IB CPUs to only x8 mode because those boards have only a Gen2 x8/x8 switch. And Gen2 switches cannot do anything at all whatsoever with eight of the PCI-e 3.0 lanes because the switch cannot read them at all. Newer revisions of the Z68XP-UD5 board do have a Gen3 x8/x8 switch, so that you would be able to take full advantage of future PCI-e 3.0 graphics cards (however, the newest GeForce 600 series GPUs do not yet take anywhere near full advantage of even PCI-e 2.0, let alone PCI-e 3.0).

     

    As for the choice of the GPU, stick with the 560 Ti even if it has only 384 CUDA cores and a 256-bit VRAM bus: The GTX 470's technically superior specs (448 CUDA cores and a 320-bit VRAM bus) is more than offset by that GPU's tendency to run relatively hot even at idle. This, in turn, results in the GTX 470 frequently speeding up its fan to maximum speed in the middle of an encode, and the GPU itself might throttle back as the encoding progresses, creating a new bottleneck. In fact, in my own testing the GTX 470 with its reference cooler is only slightly faster than a reference non-Ti GTX 560 (with only 336 CUDA cores and a 256-bit VRAM bus). I am now running my system with a "GTX 560 Ti 448", which has 448 CUDA cores and a 320-bit VRAM bus but is a newer GPU with a higher clock speed (as it is actually based on a GTX 570 with one of its processing units disabled). The "GTX 560 Ti 448" should have really been named the "GTX 565" or "GTX 568" because its performance is much closer to a GTX 570 than to a regular GTX 560 Ti.

     

    Also, search the forums for "CUDA hack". Those posts and threads will give you an idea on how to enable MPE GPU acceleration on a CUDA card that's not officially supported by Adobe in that mode.

     

    Randall

     
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    Mar 30, 2012 3:34 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    For your motherboard in the PrePro world higher price is not always higher performance.

    They are both nice mobo's.

    A lot of high end  boards are more expensive because of gamers or OC hobbist.

    Here's a link to compare the both (don't bother some dutch)

    http://nl.hardware.info/vergelijkingstabel/154641/zoopstudio/moederbor den-vergelijkingstabel-31-03-2012-002757

     
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    Mar 30, 2012 3:48 PM   in reply to LindaColli

    Asus P9X79 WS is not for the 2600 K cpu I think

     
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