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Didn't they try this blur update in Lr 2 also?

Mar 31, 2012 10:10 AM

Seems like Deja Vu to me. I seem to recall they tried to pass off this blurred image and no update until releasing the mouse in Lr2 when everyone was complaining about speed issues.

 

People better start making it clear this is not a solution or they may find this is how Lr4 will work going forward. I don't know how anyone can work like this. I sure can't. Going back to 4.0 until this is fixed, if it ever is.

 

If no one starts complaining about this issue they may move forward with it like it is and that would be the death of this product to many. What the heck were they thinking?

 

If you don't know what I'm referring to, check this thread. http://forums.adobe.com/thread/982697?tstart=60

 
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    Mar 31, 2012 12:43 PM   in reply to Danny Michael

    As the thread starter at the link above I completely agree. I cannot work with 4.1 at all becuase of this

     
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    Mar 31, 2012 1:24 PM   in reply to Danny Michael

    No.

     

    The previous approach was to use "pixel doubling", meaning to render at 1/4 resolution first, and then update to full-resolution when time was available.  This approach renders at full resolution but without the sharpening applied.

     

    Frankly, I don't even notice it.  I don't care if sharpening is applied or not while I'm adjusting the general image tone.  Note that the sharpening IS applied when adjusting the sliders in the detail panel, where it actually matters.

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 7:10 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    I'm running 4.1RC on Windows.

     

    I don't know if they intend to leave this feature in or not, but I know for a fact that the sliders in the detail panel are supposed to update instantly WITH SHARPENING APPLIED as you move the sliders, and they do exactly that on my Windows machine.  If they aren't doing that for you, then that's a bug in the implementation.

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 7:38 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    dmcrescent wrote:

     

    I get a blurred image until I release and move my mouse off the slider in 4.1RC.

     

    Using the sliders in the detail panel?  The need to move teh mouse off the sliders in the other panels is a confirmed bug.

     

    I remember they tried this "hack" before and there was an outcry of complaints and they changed it back

     

    As I described in detail above, that is not quite correct.

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 7:58 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    dmcrescent,

    I am seeing the exact same thing. Mac, Snow Leopard. It is not possible to

    tell what individual adjustments in the develope module have done until you

    release and wait for update. This is kinda like "hit and miss". Not good. Did

    not update to 4.1RC on windows 7 laptop so can't speak to that.

     

    asu_chic

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:05 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    dmcrescent,

    Did you reinstall LR4 and then update to RC4.1 again or just reinstall??????

     

    asu_chic

     

    sorry, you must have read my mind and beat me to it!!

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:12 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    dmcrescent wrote:

     

    Now I feel like I'm losing my mind. It works correctly.

     

    What do you mean "correctly", specifically?

     

    Correctly should be:

     

    Non-detail panel sliders:  Sharpening is not applied until time is available, but is applied as soon as it is, no mouse-up, no moving off of slider required (note that this is not how it works for me on Windows).

    Detail panel sliders:  Sharpening always applied as you move the sliders.

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:20 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    Ditto. I have just reinstalled LR4 and will now try a fresh update to the RC and advise.

     

    asu_chic

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:41 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    dmcrescent wrote:

     

    Everything I'm referring to is using the Sharpening slider in the Detail panel.

     

    By correctly I mean that now when I move the slider I see immediate feedback with no blurred image.

     

    Previously, I saw a blurred image until I released my mouse.

     

    Okay, so let me ask you this.

     

    If it worked as intended - as I described above - would it be okay?

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:49 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    dmcrescent wrote:

     

    Yes, it works now as intended. I have no idea why my previous installation was broken other than possibly some sort of installation glitch. I'm now using 4.1 RC without issue.

     

    Okay, so to be clear, you don't mind not having sharpening applied during sliders movements for the sliders outside of the detail panel (saturation, exposure, etc.)?

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:58 AM   in reply to Lee Jay

    Lee Jay

    The problem was that the sliders in the develope module did not respond until you actually took the mouse off the slider and there

    was no visual  indication of what your effect would be until it "reset". Not usuable. I can report that the fresh reinstall of the 4-1RC

    over a fresh install of LR4 is now working on my mac/Snow Leopard. Note that I did upgrade from the beta and do not know if this

    is of any significance. I did have to download a fresh LR4 as the beta is expired and the sliders are now working as they should with

    no lag in updating.

     

    asu_chic

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 9:11 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    dmcrescent,

    Your description of the effect I was seeing is exactly dead on and yes, I am glad that it appears resolved. It was unusable.

    Hope the other RC1 issues discussed in other threads are resolved quickly. I kinda wonder about the install over the Beta

    thingy as the file downloaded shows the same file size and name. It does not look like the RC1 was changed, but I guess

    we may never know.

     

    asu_chic

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 9:13 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    Well, I can see how the lack of sharpening while adjusting sharpening could be a problem!

     

    Must be a bug of some sort.

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 9:37 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    Likewise! I did not want to believe what I was seeing. I really wanted to wait on LR 4.1 until

    the actual update was done but need the MKIII update as the new kid arrives tomorrow!

     

    asu_chic

     
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    Apr 2, 2012 6:59 AM   in reply to Danny Michael

    I went back to LR 4 when I saw the "blur" effect... I'm also suprised that so few people are complaining about it... For me it is clear. If LR4.1 has it , then I will stay with LR4. I hope Abode gets it fixed.

     
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    Apr 2, 2012 10:42 AM   in reply to correspondanc

    I hope this is fixed as well.  I will remove 4.1 and resinstall 4.0 and then 4.1 from a fresh download as tiem allows in the next day or so and report back

     
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