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1. Bob Levine,

Apr 1, 2012 6:20 AM in reply to mobly

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Haven’t tried the old layer method since there’s really no reason to but as far as not being able to swipe right and left, yes, I noticed that, too.

I don’t like it but I think we’re going to have to live with it.

Bob

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2. mobly,

Apr 1, 2012 6:53 AM in reply to Bob Levine

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Hi Bob

Thanks for the response.

I agree not much point with the old way, but it would be nice if Adobe informed us!

But it didn't used to be like this did it? It makes the pull out tabs, and really any reasonable size MSO very very clunky from a UI perspective, because the user doesn't realise they cant swipe on an interactive area. They just think they have got stuck on the page,

and they think the app is a bit crap if they have to try to find an area that isnt interactive, so that they can swipe to the next article.

This is a big step backwards!

More layout workarounds required!!!!

Cheers

Alistair

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3. Bob Levine,

Apr 1, 2012 7:34 AM in reply to mobly

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I have no insight at all into this but I can’t argue with you. I have an app ready to go with scrollable frames and it’s a bit clunky getting to the next page.

I’ll chalk it up to growing pains.

Bob

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4. Yellow Christian,

Apr 1, 2012 11:52 AM in reply to mobly

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My apps due to go live end of the week and it's riddled with Scrollable Content layers. From a production point of view I like the old ways, kind of meant that anybody subbling scrolling copy could quite easily do so by isolating that layer. Now they have to rely on story editor because the physical copy is masked. I've yet to start checking the next issue but can I just confirm with you Alistair that this method doesn't work at all? We've had it working on the desktop viewer but as yet not on an iPad?

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5. Bob Levine,

Apr 1, 2012 11:55 AM in reply to Yellow Christian

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There is no way in the world I would submit an app without fully testing it on the iPad.

Just my $0.02

Bob

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6. Yellow Christian,

Apr 1, 2012 12:07 PM in reply to Bob Levine

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Don't worry Bob I'm not. All pages are done and we start building tomorrow for testing. Ideal world we'd test as we go but two weeks on print edition, two weeks digital edtion doesn't leave much maging for error.

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7. mobly,

Apr 1, 2012 12:40 PM in reply to Yellow Christian

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Hi Mick (it is Mick isnt it)

I'm using V19 and the layer scrolling frames, certainly wasnt working today, I even copied and pasted examples that were in an older App, just n case I doing something stupid, but nope, not working. Have you seen Loop Magazine? its a nice aviation mag, nothing to do with me, but they have a vertical scrolling frame on their welcome page, and I can swipe left and right on it, to nav to the next page, where with current tools the MSO is "dead space" and not swipeable.

Depending on your page layouts, this can leave the page very difficult to navigate away from, .... a real headache.

The last version of my apps for layer scrolling frames, was V18 tools, and they work even though built with V19 folio builder, but not with V19 tools

Can you let me know if "Dead Space" on MSO's would have a negative impact on your layouts?

Cheers

Alistair

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8. Yellow Christian,

Apr 1, 2012 12:55 PM in reply to mobly

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Mark, but close!

Dead space would be an issue for me. I use scrollable frames to flow in sheet music, pretty much full screen width

Sounds like its going to be a long week...

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9. Bob Levine,

Apr 1, 2012 1:06 PM in reply to Yellow Christian

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This actually makes some sense. Scollable content can now scroll from any direction. What if you had a frame that scrolled left to right?

I'm just thinking out loud here.

Bob

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10. Bob Bringhurst,

Apr 1, 2012 8:43 PM in reply to Bob Levine

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One possibility is to create a dummy slideshow in the area that you don't want to be active. The tab area would be active and alide over the dummy MSO, but if you swipe in the dead area, you turn the page. I haven't tested this yet -- I will tomorrow -- but you might want to experiment with dummy buttons (navto current article) or slideshows (two invisible states set to auto play once).

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11. mobly,

Apr 2, 2012 1:03 AM in reply to Bob Bringhurst

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good and bad news.

I got it to work on a test folio, went back to the live project and it didnt!!

This is the worst case scenario, sometime it works other times it doesnt, I'll investigate.....

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12. Yellow Christian,

Apr 2, 2012 1:10 AM in reply to mobly

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I think you'll find Quark would be the worst case scenario…

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13. Yellow Christian,

Apr 18, 2012 10:17 AM in reply to Yellow Christian

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Dead space experienced over scrolling areas on PDF articles doesn't occur when the article is set to jpg or ping.

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