I have uploaded a few Captivate courses into our LMS and have encountered the following:
On the first run as slides are completed a checkmark is shown in the TOC menu. I then go until a third of the way and close the course.
When I reopen the course the course DO resume where I was previously, BUT all the checkmarks are gone.
I have the "Never send resume data" unchecked upon publishing, these courses do not contain quizzes and therefore completion is based on 80% slide view completion.
Has anyone experienced this before?
And what can be done to fix this?
Also, in conjunction with the latter - if I complete a course a third of the way on the first run, exit the course, return and complete the remaining two-thirds it does not send "completed" to the LMS, unless I go and view the already completed slides of the first run. Any thoughts?
Any help will be greatly appreciated...
Thanks
I think you will find that this behaviour is by design.
The Resume Data that gets sent to the LMS is more relevant to the scored interactions such as quiz question slides. It's not (as far as I am aware) keeping track of every single slide the user visited.
Most LMSs, and most SCORM courses, are looking for some kind of a Pass/Fail score value. Since you're actually using slide completion instead, you may find that the bookmarking functionality doesn't work quite the way you would like. As a suggestion, try turning off Resume Data bookmarking (check the box for Never Send Resume Data) and check the option in TOC settings for Self-paced Learning. Even this may not be enough to give you exactly the result you want because technically the SCORM is not supposed to be storing or persisting its own data. That's what the LMS is supposed to do.
I am researching the same concern. My client has a 'home-grown' LMS so am I understanding you, Rod, that the responsibility of the status flags belongs to the LMS more than the Captivate file?
We are working with Captivate 4, SCORM compliant courses, in which the client wants to have report back "100%" as long as they clicked through each slide. There are no quiz slides, only "scorable" objects including click boxes and text entry boxes.
The client is pushing back to the Captivate file settings, and I have tried many combinations of the settings but none maintain the green check marks on the TOC.
Any clarification or further advice, would be much appreciated. Thanks!!
100% slide completion relies on each slide being played right to the end. If you have click boxes or buttons on slides and any of these use an action that jumps to another slide, then the original slide (where it jumped from) will not have been played all the way to the end, and therefore you will NOT be able to get a 100% completion score.
Your options are:
Rod:
Thanks. I appreciate your comments, and the good news is, our file is very simple: no branching, and the LMS is able to mark it as 100% complete once they click through. The challenge we are having is the TOC status flags (check marks) are cleared with each subsequent visit to the course.
The LMS bookmarking does take them to where they left off, however, the PM finds it {understandably} disconcerting that the check marks are not there; which will imply to people their previous work was not credited.
From all the reading on the forums, and in your remarks at the beginning of this thread, the clearing of the TOC checkmarks "beahviour is by design". I am looking for clarification that since we have no quiz slides, that Captivate is behaving as designed, and if they check marks are to be retained, that is a control on the LMS end of this puzzle.
I have tried many versions of combinations of scoring, yet, none seem to retain the check marks. Does this help clarify my request for clarification? ![]()
In other words, before I go to the client and say "the issue is at the LMS end", I would like to be certain the issue is not from a setting on Captivate that could be adjusted to maintain the checkmarks through the bookmarking process.
Thanks again!!!
Wanda
I don't know of any way to make adjustments in Captivate to get the check marks in the TOC to persist from one session to the next. Once you have closed down the Captivate movie it does not store any data about all of the slides you visited.
The Self-paced Learning option in TOC settings is only to bookmark the last slide the user visited and return them to that point on their next visit. It does not check off all slides up to that point in the TOC.
This is the way Captivate currently works by design. The only way you might get around it would be to have a widget custom built to achieve your desired functionality. You'd need to engage the services of an ActionScript developer. That would cost quite a bit of money.
Your LMS cannot change this behaviour, and neither can your client.
Thanks RodWar for all your help with this thus far!
I just have one last question:
Captivate provides the functionality to report to the LMS that a user has passed a course when he has viewed all the slides.
How can it be per design of Captivate that when a user resumes a course after completing 40% of the slides, the user has to retake the 40% already completed again as well as the remaining 60% in order to pass the course. It makes sense that the user only needs to complete the remaining 60% he/she hasn't completed?
Cornelius: MY experience, interestingly enough, is that even though the TOC status flags (checkmarks are cleared), as long as we can REMEMBER which slides need to be completed, it DOES change the overall status to "Complete". The concern, of course, is that people must:
a) know they do not have to do all the other stuff again
b) remember which ones they did not complete and be sure to get them all.
To me, this seems a little unreasonable for most users, and thus our desire to have a way to keep the status flags marked until fully complete. But, I think this has already been requested to Adobe as a future feature.
Hope this helps.
Wanda
This is actually quite a complex issue. On the one hand you actually have two bookmarking methods to choose from. But on the other hand they don't play nicely together. If you want to use bookmarking (so that the user can resume where they left off during a previous session) you have to choose between the built-in Self-Paced Learning option in TOC settings, and the Resume Data bookmarking found under Quiz Reporting settings.
Self-paced Learning is designed for situations where you are NOT using an LMS, to allow the user to start again from the slide they last visited during a previous session. It writes a small amount of data to a Shared Object (Flash Cookie) on the user's computer. I've looked at the data in these cookies and they DO actually appear to record how many slides from the beginning of the movie you have completed. And if you have Self-paced Learning turned on, your TOC can show previously visited slides as ticked on subsequent sessions. (I've verified this with a test project consisting of 5 slides.) But there's a catch...
If you're using an LMS, having BOTH Self-paced Learning bookmarking AND Resume Data bookmarking turned on at the same time seems to result in issues where the bookmarking mechanisms within Captivate get into a bun fight trying to decide which one has right of way. There have been a number of issues reported in these forums over the years that turned out to be due to bookmarking duels. Self-paced Learning bookmarking is mainly interested in slide completions. Resume Data bookmarking is more interested in tracking user interactions. It's looking at things that would be significant in the SCORM world, especially any scored objects or quiz questions.
So it seems you are forced to choose between one of the two bookmarking methods and neither one will give you everything you want. Having Self-paced learning ON will tick TOC items on subsequent visits, but is not usually recognised by your LMS. Resume Data bookmarking is designed for (and is actually part of) the SCORM standard, but is not recognised by the Captivate TOC.
So blame whoever you want for the way this all works (or fails to work as you would like,) however like many issues in life, it comes down to working out which is your higher priority. As the wise pop musician once said: "You can't always get what you want..."
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