It's look like transition begiin from 20% and ends with 80%. It's the same with MPE and without MPE enabled. That is transition that I need most, now I losing it
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I don't have any third party codecs installed.
Machine:
Win7 64bit
nVidia GTX 560
i7 2600k
8GB RAM
Bumping this topic because I am having the same problem in CS6. Was also having this in CS5.5 but didn't go away when I upgraded like I hoped.
System...
Matrox MX02 LE w/ Max
nVidia Quadtro 3800
Windows 7
24G Ram
All the latest drivers and updates.
Encoding using Matrox AVI with MPEG2 iFrame codec @ 25 MB/s. Using the DV NTSC Standard 48k Sequence Preset.
As the OP mentioned, it appears as if cross dissolves are starting at 20% and finishing at 80% causing very harsh beginnings and ends of transitions.
I'm also having problems where opacities in the titler don't match the output. For example a drop shadow might be set at 50% opacity, but is barely visible in the preview monitor. Another example was a had a circle with a radial gradient, the outside edge being at 0% opacity. In the titler the circle blended nicely, but playing it on the timeline I could clearly see the outer edge of the circle and it was unusable.
Anyone have a fix for this issue?
Hi Scott,
Do you have Premier updated to 6.0.1, and Matrox drivers current at 7.0.2? Nvidia driver current?
I don't know if this will have any effect on your issue, but please try this info from Matrox release notes -
To improve the brightness of live video windows (such as the live preview
window in Matrox A/V Tools) on a system that has an NVIDIA display card,
use your display card’s control panel to set the dynamic range for video to
full. In the NVIDIA Control Panel under Video, select Adjust video color
settings. In the displayed dialog box, select With the NVIDIA settings,
click the Advanced tab, and from the Dynamic range list, select Full
(0-255). Apply this setting to all the displays on which you preview video
using Matrox software. (Ref# 56660)
Thanks
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers
Jim: There's got to be another fix other than to turn off hardware acceleration. I mean I'm not really supposed to cripple my CUDA card just to have smooth cross dissolves am I? And if so how is this acceptable and why aren't more folks complaining?
Jeff: Yes, I'm using 6.0.1 and my drivers are up to date with the exception of being 1 update back on nVidia because the very latest 305.93 driver was crashing Premiere so I'm using 297.03. I appreciate the tip on the Dynamic Range setting but unfortunately it didn't help.
Thanks for the responses
Scott
Turning off hardware acceleration did make the transistions smooth, but of course now the entire timeline needs rendering. It's not exactly something that should be turned off in order to fix the default, most commonly used transistion in video editing.
There HAS to be something else at play here. There aren't many posts about this issue, and I can't believe that everyone else is accepting dissolves that pop on and off to use hardware acceleration.
It does the same thing with Film Dissolve though, as well as ramping the opacity setting in the clip itself.
And there's the other, but related, issue of opacities in titler not matching. As you can see in screenshot below, the green orb blends smoothly in the titler, buthas a hard edge on the timeline. And it might be hard to see, but the drop shadow on the text is set at 10% opacity in the titler, but looks more like 50% on the timeline.
So what am I doing wrong? Do I need to learn a completely new way of editing if I want to use hardware acceleration? I don't want to have to fire up AE for basic editing needs.
Again, I truly appreciate your time in replying to my posts. It's very helpful even though it's not what I want to hear so far ![]()
mitrovichm wrote:
This works for me. It' better now. I change in nVidia control panel Full Dynamic Range(0-255). Maybe this whole thing was adjusting graphic card display driver. I need to know is this works in CS6.
I came to reply to your post but you took out the part about Antialiasing - Transparancy ![]()
Anyway, niether setting you mentioned fixed the problem for me, but thanks anyway.
Jim Simon wrote:
MPE hardware should work as it was designed for.
It is working as designed
Technically you're probably right, but I agree with Ann. It shouldn't break fundamental functions. I know that sometimes there's some give an take, but we're talking the default transition here.
I tried your Film Fade presets. They definately help to minimize the abduptness and I can see why this isn't an issue for you if that's what you use. The reason it works is all in the white/black levels, and it's a decent and stylish work-around. It's opacity that is the problem.
One key thing to point out is that the abrupt cross dissolves don't happen when it's just a single layer over nothing. It's when you add a 2nd layer, even if it's over a Black Video clip, it becomes abrupt.
I think, maybe we should ask nVidia for this problems. New drivers have a lot options. We must understand every option in control panel to adjuct properly. I have GTX 560 from Leadtek, my friend have 560Ti from MSI, both card display some, how to say, flickering or blending when MPE and rendering. Also, I think he said that apears even when rendering with Vegas Pro.
P.S.It's smoother, but I'm not satisfy yet. When dissolves bright clips with dark or black, still is rough.![]()
Whenever I want to still be able to edit using GPU accleration but want certain things to be smoother or appear with the correct levels of opacity I turn off GPU acceleration before exporting my project. I realize this will slow down export times quite a bit, but it will make your titles appear correctly. Plus you still get to edit without having to render to get instant previews.
Understandable, basically I was just offering the workaround that I use. Although I generally only worry about the opacity issue which when you switch modes is fixes the opacity issue 100 percent in my personal experience, since I don't use Premiere's built in cross dissolve much I haven't been bugged by that part personally.
I do realize though that it stinks that it can't seem to just work as expceted to begin with.
I'm fairly sure what Ann means is that it's not working in a desirable fashion in this specific instance. I do realize however that you're basically saying that it's working how it's designed to work.
So basically I think what everyone is trying to say is that it's not producing desirable results in this case. Which like you said is basically a feature request scenario, if indeed it's the rendering method
that GPU acceleration causes.
Jim Simon wrote:
The black exacerbates the issue.
Exactly! Which is why I did it for testing purposes only. Opacity over nothing, and opacity over a Black video clip should look idendical but it doesn't. That Black Video clip could be anything else, and it looks bad.
Jim Simon wrote:
Well its not working properly
In what way? Do you mean it's not working the way Adobe designed it to work, or the way you want it to work? The former we can maybe fix, the latter needs a feature request and a whole lot of patience.
I would guess she means it's not working the way it always has in the past. When you drag the default Cross Dissolve to the timeline, you expect it to work right and it doesn't. When you have a drop shadow on a title, you expect it to look the same on the timeline as the way you designed it in the titler, and it doesn't. It's blatenly obvious to me that this isn't intended by design, but a side affect of the MPE that needs to be fixed.
I think the reason I didn't see more posts about this is I wasn't looking back far enough. Here's a thread I found about this same issue from over a year and a half ago, and I guess the topic has already been discussed at length and everyone has lost hope? I'm new to this era of MPE+GPU, just recently upgrading from CS1.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/773441
And Hey Jim, you are a participant in that thread saying things like "Hardware MPE messes up my titles to the point where I have simply turned it off. Wasted $200 on a compatible card." I see you experienced my same frustrations back then, but have learned to live with it and are now defending it. I'm sure I'll learn to live with it too (doesn't look like I have much choice). Do you still turn off Hardware MPE for titles?
And Hey Jim, you are a participant in that thread saying things like "Hardware MPE messes up my titles to the point where I have simply turned it off.
That is one of the problems with the Internet - the posts last almost forever, and what one said a year ago, can come back to haunt them later. That can be the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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