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CS5 text wrap fails randomly

Jan 7, 2011 7:04 AM

Latest reply: photolady61, Sep 3, 2012 7:27 AM

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40. Peter Spier,

Feb 9, 2012 6:37 AM in reply to E Diane King

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No offence taken, and if he hadn't already started a new topic I would have branched this one, but all's well now.

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41. T.S.Hulbert,

Apr 9, 2012 3:59 PM in reply to Peter Spier

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Not sure if this is the same "Feature" or a different one.
InDesign CS5 - WIndows 7 x64

Some of our users can use the 'Text Wrapping" feature other users cannot. Users have local admin rights.

The error will not allow the user to set the Font Styles or use the Text Wrapping feature.

Reloading Creative Suite didn't help

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42. Peter Spier,

Apr 9, 2012 4:05 PM in reply to T.S.Hulbert

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Is everyone patched to 7.0.4?

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43. Rhiannon Miller,

Apr 10, 2012 4:47 AM in reply to E Diane King

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Did you ever get a reply to your email, Diane?

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44. E Diane King,

Apr 10, 2012 4:54 AM in reply to Rhiannon Miller

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No, not a peep. It appears that Adobe has closed the book on this bug, even though it is still annoying us on a regular basis.

To be honest, on my end, I think I'm only seeing it in old files. It may be something that can't be removed from old files but the bug no longer occurs in freshly-generated-from-scratch documents. It's hard for me to judge this myself because I'm working off of templates and will be for a couple years. Working on fresh documents is rare for me, but I did start a new project the a few weeks back in which I started from scratch and created new style sheets and everything, and I have yet to see the issue in that one. I'm even using split and span columns.

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45. Rhiannon Miller,

Apr 10, 2012 5:03 AM in reply to E Diane King

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I just tested it this morning (in response to Peter's question about being patched to the latest version, not initially realising that he was responding to T.S.Hulbert's problem). I can still reproduce the bug in the exact same way as in my post on 31 August:

Create a new two-page file with a text frame on each page, threaded together, and fill with placeholder text.
Create a new empty frame at the top of the second page, and apply text wrap.
Apply span columns to a paragraph near the bottom of the first page.
Resize the text frame on the first page until the paragraph with span columns applied is moved to the second page.
Observe that the paragraph with span columns applied does not respect the text wrap.

Can you reproduce this?

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46. E Diane King,

Apr 10, 2012 5:09 AM in reply to Rhiannon Miller

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I just did those steps in CS 5 and did not produce the error. It flowed correctly.

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47. Peter Spier,

Apr 10, 2012 5:12 AM in reply to E Diane King

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Diane,

Have you tried recreating your templates by going page-by-page and copying/pasting in place to a new file?

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48. Rhiannon Miller,

Apr 10, 2012 5:18 AM in reply to E Diane King

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How very very interesting. I still have the problem with new files both in CS5 and CS5.5.

We need to work out how your environment differs from mine. What version of Mac OS are you on these days?

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49. E Diane King,

Apr 10, 2012 6:10 AM in reply to Peter Spier

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@ Peter Not sure if that's really useful with my current template. It's actually a flowed story and everything template-oriented is in the text of the story. Even the wrapped objects that misbehave are anchored objects that are part of the flowed story. However, I'm near the end of the first year of layout on this 3-year project, and I was already planning on redoing the templates for the second year—there are some things I want to change in the templated flow. I'm hoping that I can shed the error when I do that.

@Rhiannon I'm still on OS 10.5.8. I've been happy not to move to Snow Leopard because all my coworkers who have it experience persistant network problems.

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50. T.S.Hulbert,

Apr 10, 2012 6:39 AM in reply to E Diane King

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Maybe our problem is a little different, but it is causing frustration and panic in our Marketing department. We are updated and the cut/paste to an empty template doesn't work either. Next try will be 5.5

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51. E Diane King,

Apr 10, 2012 12:04 PM in reply to T.S.Hulbert

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Hulbert,

You might want to start a new thread. Your issue is something different than the topic here, and you'll get more help if you start something new. This thread has been around for awhile and there aren't many of us watching it.

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52. Rhiannon Miller,

Apr 12, 2012 1:58 AM in reply to E Diane King

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Hmm. I'm on Lion. But to be honest I'm really not sure how much difference that could possibly make – I can't see how it could have fixed itself when you haven't changed version at all. Is there anything you've changed recently? Plugins? (I have a couple, but a colleague has none at all and can reproduce the bug as described above.)

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53. Rhiannon Miller,

May 3, 2012 5:46 AM in reply to E Diane King

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There's a new update to CS5.5 just out (InDesign 7.5.3). In the changelog:

Broken spanning columns cause issues with Text Wrap & Keeps Options [2958674]*

My quick test suggests this has indeed now been fixed.

Oh brillig day, calloo, callay.

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54. photolady61,

Aug 30, 2012 1:22 PM in reply to E Diane King

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I don't know if anyone is still following this thread, but I have been having exactly the same problem in CS5.5. This is the first time I have used the Span Columns feature in a document and also the first time I have seen this problem occur. I have a 300-page book with double columns and several graphics per page, each with text wrap. Any time I make a change to a page, the text wrap randomly gets "forgotten" by many of the graphics beneath the change, even in the non-spanned columns. This is extremely tedious to have to go through a hundred or more pages and "refresh" each graphic by making a slight change to the text wrap dimension of the graphic and then changing it back, which seems to reset the text wrap to its proper settings.

It appears that they did not fix this bug in CS5.5 after all; and I had never seen this issue before upgrading to CS5.5 The next book I design I will not use the Span Columns feature; I'll see if it continues to occur.

Anyone?

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55. Rhiannon Miller,

Sep 3, 2012 6:52 AM in reply to photolady61

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Have you made sure your software is up to date? I've not experienced this problem since installing 7.5.3.

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56. photolady61,

Sep 3, 2012 7:27 AM in reply to Rhiannon Miller

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I'm on 7.5 now--I'll upgrade and report back.

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