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Question on Skewing Path Strokes

Apr 10, 2012 9:56 PM

Tags: #illustrator #cs5 #effects #path #stroke

HI there,

 

I'm a longtime Illustrator user and have a general query on Skewing Paths...

 

Essentially this is to do with creating logotypes, see below - the issue is when I skew a path with a stroke the end points 'tilt round' or stay as they were - to get round this i must outline the Path forst, which is fine, but makes editing post skewing alot harder....

 

I appreciate this might be somewhat esoteric - but any tips would be greatly appreciated

 

Thanks in advance

 

K

 

Screen shot 2012-04-11 at 5.47.43 AM.png

771 Views   11 Replies   Latest reply: kierankelly, Apr 11, 2012 8:53 PM
 
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  • Jesseham
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    1. Jesseham,
    Apr 10, 2012 11:22 PM   in reply to kierankelly
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    Esoteric questions are the best kind.  There's no wrong answer. ;-)

     

    It's not as precise, but you could Effect->Outline Stroke and then Effect->Distort & Transform->Free Distort

     

    Alternately - Effect->Outline Stroke and then Object->Envelope Distort->make with mesh...  1x1, skew as usual.

     
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  • kierankelly
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    2. kierankelly,
    Apr 11, 2012 2:22 AM   in reply to Jesseham
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    Many thanks Jesseham,

     

    The second option works:

     

    Effect->Outline Stroke and then Object->Envelope Distort->make with mesh...  1x1, skew as usual.

     

    but it's really only another way what I normally do

     

    Object > Path > Outline Stroke

     

    As when the mesh is expanded - it just becomes outlines... Still it's something new to me as I havent use the mesh before!

     

    I really appreciate the feedback

     

    Cheers

     

    Kieran


     
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  • Monika Gause
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    3. Monika Gause,
    Apr 11, 2012 2:29 AM   in reply to kierankelly
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    You could also make a symbol and then skew the instance of the symbol. You won't need a mesh

     
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  • kierankelly
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    4. kierankelly,
    Apr 11, 2012 2:57 AM   in reply to Monika Gause
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    Perfect Monika,

     

    that's it.... see attached, I can edit the symbol in isolation as a single path, yet it remains skewed on the Artboard

     

    Screen shot 2012-04-11 at 10.45.19 AM copy.png

     

    Cosmic Hi-5 for you!!

     
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  • Kurt Gold
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    5. Kurt Gold,
    Apr 11, 2012 4:30 AM   in reply to kierankelly
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    That might also just be another instance of the Align to Pixel Grid issue.

     

    Have you turned that option on or off (see Transform palette)?

     
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  • Monika Gause
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    6. Monika Gause,
    Apr 11, 2012 5:13 AM   in reply to kierankelly
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    You're welcome, kierankelly

     
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  • Kurt Gold
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    7. Kurt Gold,
    Apr 11, 2012 11:42 AM   in reply to kierankelly
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    Probably I'm a bit muzzy at the moment, but am I the only one who says that example 2 inside the initial post shows just an atypical behaviour when it comes to skewing/shearing stroked paths?

     

    No workaround, like using meshes or symbols, should be necessary here.

     
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  • steve fairbairn
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    8. steve fairbairn,
    Apr 11, 2012 11:52 AM   in reply to Kurt Gold
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    am I the only one who says that example 2 inside the initial post shows just an atypical behaviour when it comes to skewing/shearing stroked paths?

    Skewing doesn't affect the caps of open stroked paths. Never has done.

    I think we would have hellish trouble on our hands if it did.

    How would we go about un-skewing it again if it had been, say, manually rotated or otherwise edited?

     
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  • Kurt Gold
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    9. Kurt Gold,
    Apr 11, 2012 12:08 PM   in reply to steve fairbairn
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    I see. I misinterpret the original screenshot. Thought the letters would consist of filled paths, each surrounded by a stroke.

     

    Obviously a wrong assumption.

     
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  • JETalmage
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    10. JETalmage,
    Apr 11, 2012 7:16 PM   in reply to kierankelly
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    Since we're talking about letter forms here (and logotype, at that), I hope you realize that skewing a stroked path versus skewing an unstroked filled path (or a Symbol Instance containing just open stroked paths) does not result in the same thickness of the vertical stems:

     

     

    This is one reason why italic (or even oblique) versions of typefaces are not merely skewed versions of the regulars.

     

    JET

     
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  • kierankelly
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    11. kierankelly,
    Apr 11, 2012 8:53 PM   in reply to JETalmage
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    Yeap I am aware of that JETalmage

     

    to be honest it was just a time saver o guage a quick idea... I'd always tidy it after outlining the Path, ie thicken

     
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