I am assisting a friend who is working with Elements 10 on a laptop running Windows 7. I want her to watch the histogram while making layer adjustments.
I have carefully kept the histogram panel tabbed to the top group. The layers and adjustment panels are not tabbed to that group.
Every time she is making a layers adjustment the histogram panel closes. I can't find a way to have both open at once.
What is causing this?
Ken, are you indicating that the only solution is to remove the histogram from its panel location? In version 9 on the Mac, I can tab the histogram panel to the Effects panel at the top of the panel bin and it can remain open at all times.
Is this a change in versin 10?
I've reduced my Panel Bin to an iconized state, and no matter into which area of the Panel Bin I put the Histogram panel, it's automatically closed when I open another palette.
I never tried this when I had PSE9, so I don't know if some code was changed. This is on Win7 x64.
You're welcome, Mary Lou.
I can appreciate what you're saying -- that would be convenient when the Panel Bin is in its default "full" state (and now that I think about it, I think I remember having multiple palettes open when I had PSE9), but for my setup with that "iconized" Panel Bin, it doesn't make any difference insofar as screen real estate is concerned.
I'm pretty sure this is just a question of screen real estate. Both the Histogram and Adjustments panel are of a fixed size (they have a minimum size they must be to display). Other panels, like layers, have the capability of scrolling, so they don't have the fixed size. So, if you have other panels open along with Histogram and Adjustment, when you switch from one to the other, it will collapse the opposite. But if you collapse the other panel you will probably have enough room for both the Histogram and Adjustments panels. The other option is to increase your screen real estate by upping your screen resolution.
Thanks for that suggestion, Brett. Today I spoke on the telephone
with a manager in the tech division. He said that this problem
shouldn't occur. They checked it out and didn't find this problem.
I will check it out tomorrow when I meet a class of people with
elements 10. I will see if the problem is universal or limited to a
few computers. If it is a limited problem the manager suggested
getting Adobe to reset the software.
I'll check back here when I know more.
The reason that this matters to me is that I teach my Elements
students to watch the histogram when making layers adjustments. If
the problem can't be corrected, then they would need to unattach the
histogram panel and let it float. It would be a bit of a nuisance
but worth trying.
Yeah, I actually tested this on two different computers, the first everything worked fine, I was able to make adjustments and see the histogram. Then on the second computer I could only view one at a time, just as you describe. The difference I discovered was the size of the display, the one where things work is a significantly larger screen. I think my laptop is about 15" and my desktop is 22". But playing around with things to make more room, I was able to get the histogram and adjustments to display at the same time.
In reply to an earlier comment that if I close other panels I should
be able to keep both the histogram panel and the adjustment panel
open, didn't work. Even when all panels are closed except the
histogram, when I go to make an adjustment, the histogram panel closes.
Well, getting the other panels out of the way is just a way of making more room, but the amount of room you have total is going to depend on more than just that. What screen resolution are you using? Also, do you know what DPI you are using on your screen?