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Why is premiere cs6 going to remove this great feature

Apr 13, 2012 5:40 AM

Why is premiere cs6 and AE cs6 going to remove the great feature of allowing video to be worked on in Photoshop and then bringing in the psd as footage into premiere or AE to continue your edit. CS6 will no longer support this and we must render out a video from Photoshop then import the new video itself.

 

See http://www.video2brain.com/en/videos-13091.htm at the end

1886 Views   11 Replies   Latest reply: dave rogers123, Apr 16, 2012 1:21 AM
 
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  • Christian Jolly
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    1. Christian Jolly,
    Apr 13, 2012 7:01 AM   in reply to dave rogers123
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    I'm sure there was a reason it was eliminated...maybe not many people used it, and Adobe tossed it to keep the code cleaned...? I never used it personally, not sure if I ever would have needed to (I prefer to import PSD into After Effects and do image animation there instead).

     

    Sorry you're losing a feature that you used. Maybe an Adobe rep can give you an exact reason why it's gone.

     
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  • medeamajic
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    2. medeamajic,
    Apr 13, 2012 7:52 AM   in reply to dave rogers123
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    Premiere's integration with the other Adobe programs is a key selling point. It does seem odd to force rendering to AVI files as opposed to accepting the native PSD video files. I never used this feature but for those who do PP CS 6.0 might be a big let down.

     
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  • Jerry Klaimon
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    3. Jerry Klaimon,
    Apr 13, 2012 9:37 AM   in reply to medeamajic
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    I haven't used the PS animation much either, But how about bringing the psd file into Pr as individual layers, and then animating them? Does PS have any animation functions that Pr lacks?

     
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  • Bill Hunt
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    Apr 13, 2012 9:58 AM   in reply to Jerry Klaimon
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    Jerry.K,

     

    That has always been my workflow.

     

    I have not fully explored PS-Extended's capabilities, but from what I see, they are fairly limited, compared to those in PrPro.

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - when I first read the post, my heart lept into my throat, as I thought that the Import_As_Sequence for a Layered PSD, was being removed from PrPro. That would be a horrible blunder, IMHO.

     
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  • dave rogers123
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    5. dave rogers123,
    Apr 13, 2012 3:36 PM   in reply to dave rogers123
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    Having Photoshops video functionality is very useful as shown here for content aware dust spot removal http://www.photoshop.com/people/russell/classes/camera-raw-and-smart-o bjects see the tut “Smart Object Video in Photoshop”

    Or here where Rich Harrington demonstrates some of the great photoshop video effects and shows the drag and drop psd advantages of instantly going back to photoshop for further adjustment without having to rerender again. http://library.creativecow.net/articles/harrington_richard/PS_Advanced -Blending/video-tutorial

    It seems Adobe is proud and rightly so, of Photoshops video handling abilities, but forcing us to degrade our footage and waste our valuable time by another output render when the functionality was there to just integrate the adjustments with a psd and letting the power of the great media encoder do the final render seems crazy.

    AE ability to do this has also been removed in AE cs6

     
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  • Christian Jolly
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    6. Christian Jolly,
    Apr 13, 2012 11:47 AM   in reply to dave rogers123
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    Is a still image sequence not a suitable option? Editors have been doing this for years. Sort of like old school film editing

     

    Again I reiterate that I did not use this feature and barely understood it existed so I'm not saying "you don't need it" but rather just trying to help you around the loss of this function.

     
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  • dave rogers123
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    Apr 13, 2012 12:05 PM   in reply to dave rogers123
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    Sorry my last post was in bold I didn’t realise I was shouting.

     

    Note this is not Animation specific it’s about working on video files within Photoshop.

     

    The point is that Adobe cs 5 currently has the ability to work non-destructively and much more quickly with the footage and only requiring a single final output render. A non-destructive work flow and one without the need to create large video files for reimport is something that we all love about premiere forcing unnecessary renders is such a waste of time. It’s a little like being asked to start transcoding footage again because Adobe has changed its mind on supporting HDSLR files natively, ok that a little extreme but I do see it as a huge step backwards in what surely must be the goal of full integration of Adobe products.

     
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  • Todd_Kopriva
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    Apr 14, 2012 11:29 AM   in reply to dave rogers123
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    Photoshop changed a lot about how it works in CS6. We didn't have time to adapt all of our integration features to catch up to the changes, so we had to remove the feature for now rather than have it be broken.

     

    We are working on getting the integration between Photoshop and the video applications to a better place as soon as we can.

     
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  • Stan Jones
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    9. Stan Jones,
    Apr 14, 2012 12:05 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva
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    This is an example of what builds Adobe credibility. A frank, no-fuss explanation of why things are as they are. It's nice when there is an optimistic future, but even when it is not to be, I like openness.

     

    That in addition to Todd's extraordinary effectiveness and helpfulness.

     
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  • Pharther Phurther
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    10. Pharther Phurther,
    Apr 14, 2012 2:08 PM   in reply to dave rogers123
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    MY warning is that the "Dynamic Link" function has a better intergration that the current offering in 5.5 .. especially for multi-processors.

     
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  • dave rogers123
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    11. dave rogers123,
    Apr 16, 2012 1:21 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva
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    Todd thank you for your answer and acknowledgement that the loss of Photoshop integration is something that will be remedied in the future. Limitations on connectivity stifle creativity, strong fast  links between all of Adobe’s products will allow creatives the freedom to push the boundaries on what’s deliverable in ways that we still have not thought of.

     

    Thanks for your reply and thank you for contributing towards a great product.

     
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