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Apr 12, 2012 8:43 AM

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  • SteveG(AudioMasters)
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    Apr 14, 2012 8:16 AM   in reply to Kost7

    Rewire perhaps - but not MIDI.

     
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    Apr 14, 2012 8:56 AM   in reply to SteveG(AudioMasters)

    I know about your opposition to the MIDI idea (I respect it, even though I don't share it), but I'm curious about why you'd say 'maybe' to Rewire.

     
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  • SteveG(AudioMasters)
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    Apr 14, 2012 10:37 AM   in reply to therealdobro

    Rewire only inasmuch as it can run an external MIDI sequencer - no need for it to go any further than that, and even that's too far really.

     
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    Apr 14, 2012 10:58 AM   in reply to _durin_

    As I posted over at Audio Masters, this looks great -- and thx so much for advising it will still run on XP,

    since we run AA on multiple systems and all are currently XP SP3.  Do keep us posted as to when

    we can get it and cost for the upgrade from CS5.5 - will def. do that

     

    The template feature also seems it will get a lot of use at our studios.  For a long time, we have done sort of the

    same thing via several workarounds to make various often-used templates (sort-of-templates at least)

    with default assignments, busses and  sometimes plugs loaded  (UA, Izotope, Waves, "AA native" and others)

    and set to often used starting settings.  We also use many diff workspace templates all the time for

    various tasks.

     

    Recall and repeatability are big things  for a lot  of what we do. It's very often essential with many

    projects to be able to go back - even years later -- and get everything back exactly

    as it was to then add or re-version something to/from those sessions/projects.

    Sometimes clients want to add new material or make changes even inside bits of existing stuff.

     

    And thx for putting back stems exporting (sep files) - a key feature for us - also for Colin's explanation (at Audio

    Masters) of enhancements to it -- ditto grouping and several others we really missed in 5.5.

     

    One other  thought for possible inclusion later.:

    A split and append feature for SESX files, so that you can split a long m/track project into two

    (or more) sub-projects (as sometimes dense projects grow even denser as they progress!)

     

    You would designate a split point on the timeline and  AA would ask you to provide a new name for

    each resulting "sub project".

    Everything to left of split point becomes new project 1 and everything to right new project 2, and

    perhaps the command provides default names which user can override and enter their own pref.

     

    And then an append feature would simply let you append another SESX project to an existing

    one at the end of the existing SESX, or perhaps again at a point on the timeline you select, and

    in that case it would insert the other project you specify into the project you are appending it to.

     

    With some of the more recent projects we've been doing using only CS5.5 being more than

    4 hours long, this feature would come in quite handy.

     

    A very old hardware/software system we still sometimes use for making CD masters provides that feature and

    we've often made good use if it.

     

    Hoping too that maybe we'll be again able to use the Frontier Alphatrack with the new version,

    though maybe that will  need some work by the Frontier Design Group folks first.

    I don't think Alphatrack is fully Mackie protocol compliant, but I'm not sure. It does work pretty well

    with AA3- though some features are not implemented.  (their AA2 files on their website for

    Alphatrack work with AA3)  www.frontierdesign.com

     

    Frontier's answer on unimplemented stuff was always that because Audition did not expose those

    parameters to ext control,  they couldn't implement them at their end -- but since

    the architecture changed greatly when AA moved to CS5.5 perhaps that's no longer the

    case. 

     

    Maybe the Adobe folks could dialog with the Frontier people on that to see what they need?

     

    Anyhow, bravo on this and will look fwd to being able to use the new stuff when it becomes

    available -- and to having the old stuff back too.

     
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    Apr 14, 2012 9:59 PM   in reply to richlepage

    Is there 64-bit version ?

    Is it possible to hide TABS (to make my small monitor BIGGER) ?

     

    thanx


     
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  • SteveG(AudioMasters)
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    Apr 15, 2012 4:26 AM   in reply to nahravka

    nahravka wrote:

     

    Is there 64-bit version ?

    Is it possible to hide TABS (to make my small monitor BIGGER) ?

     



    No 64-bit version this time. No you can't hide tabs either - that would be pointless! A new monitor will cost you less than Audition will these days...

     
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    Apr 15, 2012 5:34 AM   in reply to SteveG(AudioMasters)

    Hi Steve,

     

    since Adobe doesn't seem to want to answer my GUI related questions, and you seem to be a beta (or even alpha) tester, can you help out please and tell me whether the following issues have been addressed in CS6?

     

    1. earlier in this thread (I posted this 3 days ago):

    "For CS 5.5 I had reported two Edit-view related display bugs (spectral display "dB range" value not saved properly, spectral drawing hick-ups when switching between files). Also, compared to Audition 1.x I noticed a slower live-update of the Frequency Analysis window (i.e. less updates per second) when playing a file. Does this mean all three issues have been solved in the course of implementing the above 3 bullet points?"

     

    2. What I am missing... (I posted this 11 months ago):
    http://forums.adobe.com/message/3683921#3683921

    "I already submitted two bug reports, and in addition I'd like to mention that the Preferences check box 'Synchronize selection, zoom level, and CTI across files in the Waveform Editor' doesn't cover the vertical zoom level (neither in time nor in spectral view), which it did in version 3. Is there a special reason why this IMHO very useful feature was omitted? Did you just forget about it?"

     

    3. Zooming in Spectral Frequency Display (I also posted this 11 months ago):
    http://forums.adobe.com/message/3664409#3664409

    "vertical zoom states of waveform and spectrogram in Edit view are not saved when switching to a different file. You have to manually define the zoom state for each file, which makes it very difficult and time consuming to e.g. directly compare two files at user-defined vertical zoom levels (by switching back and forth). 

    Windows XP SP3, x86. Is this a bug or a feature? It used to work in AA 3 (and 2 IIRC). The horizontal zoom state is kept when switching between files (assuming the corresponding option in the Preferences is checked)."

     

    Maybe I should clarify: at work (and at home) I use Audition to compare waveforms and spectrograms of different files by switching back and forth. I am an audio codec developer at Fraunhofer IIS. So fixing the above 3 issues directly translates into me saving time at work.

     

    Thanks in advance,

     

    Chris

     
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    Apr 15, 2012 7:56 AM   in reply to C.R.Helmrich

    Hi Chris, likely we just missed your post above, we're not trying to avoid it certainly ;-)

     

    I would like to have someone validate against our work history this cycle and see if indeed resolved any of these and respond. I'm not in a spot where I can do the research, so have to rely on someone who can.

     

    RE: using AGM (your post above) is around to improvements draw performance for static items (fonts, lines, etc) and likely does not improve specifically feq analysis panel, but that does not mean there wasn't an improvement there that I'm not aware of.

     

    Colin

     
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    Apr 15, 2012 8:58 AM   in reply to _durin_

    WMA read/write supported on CS6?

     
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    Apr 15, 2012 10:10 AM   in reply to _durin_

    re: WMA

     

    (follow-up to what Durin mentioned)

     

    On mac, you'll need Flip4Mac just like in Au CS5.5.  On Windows, import of WMA is supported without third-party components, but you'll need to turn on DLMS in the Preferences panel.

     
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  • SteveG(AudioMasters)
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    Apr 15, 2012 1:42 PM   in reply to C.R.Helmrich

    C.R.Helmrich wrote:

     

    Hi Steve,

     

    since Adobe doesn't seem to want to answer my GUI related questions, and you seem to be a beta (or even alpha) tester, can you help out please and tell me whether the following issues have been addressed in CS6? (et seq...)

     

    Only just seen this, but from memory also (unless I go and turn on another machine and play around for a while), I think Durin's nailed it. I don't think that waveform vertical zoom has ever done what you want it to - in order to do that, I believe that the display would have to be re-established at that zoom level every time you went back to the file, and you wouldn't actually save any time at all. What appears to be optimised is the establishment of a basic spectral display. If I wanted to do what you seem to be attempting to do, I'd open-append both files into one display, and put markers at the points I wanted to compare - it's relatively easy to hit those quickly, and under these circumstances the zoom level will remain the same.

     
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    Apr 15, 2012 5:00 PM   in reply to SteveG(AudioMasters)

    Thanks, Colin and Durin, for double-checking. Looking forward to your reports.

     

    And thanks, Steve! The open-append approach you describe sounds like a good work-around. But this must be done manually, right? i.e. I cannot open-append via drag-drop of files onto files already open in Audition, or can I? Regarding

    "I don't think that waveform vertical zoom has ever done what you want it to":

    You're probably right. So, Durin, Charles, et al: how about adding synchronized vertical waveform zoom to the feature list? (if it's not on the list already, of course.) I know that Audition 2.x (and 3.x IIRC) sync'ed the vertical (frequency) zoom in spectral view, and I hope this feature is re-established in CS6 (is that what you're indicating, Steve?) Because otherwise I have to manually zoom in on each file in the same way (or have to manually open-append, as suggested), which is precisely where I lose time.

     

    Chris

     
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:15 AM   in reply to C.R.Helmrich

    If you Open Append to New then you can select all the files you want to compare to open at once.

     
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  • Admiral Cook
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    Apr 16, 2012 8:47 AM   in reply to _durin_

    Thanks for your answers, Durin and Charles.

     

    I hope you'll update it soon to read/write WMAs like version 3.

     
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    Apr 17, 2012 3:51 PM   in reply to _durin_

    It is welcome news that the developers have worked to clean up the VST sorting.  I have plug-ins that would not work in CS5.5 because of their perceived channel count but worked in all other versions of Audition. 

     
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:13 AM   in reply to _durin_

    Hi,

     

    reading through the list of added features I suppose the following is still missing:

     

    • find beats
    • beat, CD track, CD index, and BWF-J markers
    • rejoining split clips
    • loop recording of multiple punch-in takes
    • video thumbnails in multitrack sessions

     

    or am I wrong?

     
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