When I filter for a given tag (a person's name in the case in question) the Organiser throws up masses of images which do not carry the tag I am using for my search/filter. I've looked at the filenames and metadata of the erroneous 'hits' but cannot find anything which would explain these mis-hits apart from the fact that they are photos taken around the same time. I've fiddled with the 'Options/Hide best match' criteria without success.
How can I force the PSE9 organizer to simply show me the photos tagged with the tag I check ?
Thanks for this reply.
That's exactly the problem. I use the Keyword Tags panel and select the tag but get dozens of images which are unrelated to the tag.
By the way, my apologies, I might have put this in the wrong place. I tried to delete the thread and tack it onto the other related one that you had already helped me with but seemingly the deletion didn't work. Anyway, if you have any clues as to the source of the problem I'd be grateful.
I don't have an answer, then -- that panel filters the images as I expect here in PSE10.
You can always try Repairing, then Optimizing the catalog, as well as deselecting the "Show close matches" option on the Preferences...General tab.
If your keyword tag is a category, you'll get all the tags that are included in that category.
P.S., Once your message is replied to, you lose a couple of options for it. It's better to start a new thread for a new problem, anyway.
Thanks again for the input.
As per your suggestions I Repaired and Optimized the catalog (the Repair procedure said there were no errors but offered me the 'Repair anyway' option, which I selected) and I deselected the "Show close matches" option on the Preferences...General tab but the problem persists.
If I filter for a given tag, although the 'Hide results that do not match' option is selected the thumbnails include many irrelevant ones which are marked 'Non Match' (the little 'No Parking' symbol at the top left of the thumbnail).
The tagging function in the Catalog seems to have become corrupted in a way that PSE cannot repair.
I'm not sure what to do now. Build a new catalog and hope that the tags in the image metadata will be used for the PSE9 tagging (I don't have time to re-tag all those images) ? Re-install PSE9 ?
OK, if you then click on the "Options...Hide results that do not match", do the non-matching results go away, leaving only the matches?
I'm at a slight disadvantage here because I can only test this in PSE10, and don't know if anything was changed from the PSE9 behaviour.
I highly doubt that re-installing PSE9 would change the behaviour you're noticing -- program code either works or doesn't, with no in-between "sorta corrupted" effects.
It might be a case of keyword tags in the image metadata also being found, in addition to the keyword tags that only exist in the Organizer database. Could that be your case? You can test that by creating a new, empty catalog and importing a dozen test images -- images that you are positive that do not have any metadata written to the files themselves. Then create a few test tags in Organizer, assign them to the images (without writing the tags to the file's metadata), and seeing if the tag filtering works as you expect.
"....if you then click on the "Options...Hide results that do not match", do the non-matching results go away, leaving only the matches?" No, bizarrely it simply throws up a different set of partially correct, partially incorrect matches.
Following your suggestion, I
So I conclude that my original catalog has in some way become corrupted. Probably what I have to do now is create a new catalog of all my image files and get it to generate the thumbnails from the tags in the IPTC metadata.
I'm not sure if simply generating new tags from the metadata in a new catalog would solve it if the tags are also left in the metadata, but you can certainly test that theory in a new catalog with a few images before doing the work in a new catalog with all your images.
I tried it with a small set and it worked so then I created a new catalog and imported all the photos on my computer. At the end of the import process it threw up a silly little screen* announcing that it couldn't import several hundred files because they were corrupted or not in a format that PSE understands. I could browse those files perfectly well this morning so I conclude that they were corrupted by the import process. Now they cannot be opened, neither by Windows Explorer nor by IrfanView. Both say that the file headers are damaged.
So now I have to find out exactly which files have been damaged and restore them from my backup drive. Needless to say I'm furious at, and disgusted by, the PSE9 "Organizer" and will have to find another organizer or indexer which is solid and stable and interfaces with the PSE editor.
* "silly" because it was far too small to extract useful information from it and it didn't allow the contents to be printed out or otherwise saved for analysis.
Ouch! I'm sorry to hear that those images were corrupted. It's unusual that the headers get so corrupted that Irfanview or XnView can't open them....
I share your disappointment (to put it mildly) with the problems I've seen here over the past year regarding the database. I'm coming from a client-server database background, so I tend to feel much more comfortable with a "real" enterprise-class database like MS SQL Server or Oracle.
A year ago, before I discovered PSE, I was looking for a photo organizing application and although I tried a few, the "make or break" feature for me is the ability to browse and work with the thumbnails even if the images are stored offline (on a CD, for example). Let me know if you find anything.
Will look around and report back. I may start a new thread, e.g. "Alternatives to PSE Organizer" and see whether it whacks anything out of the woodwork. There are numerous threads on this subject but they are all outdated.
Basically I need an organizer which
Windows Live Photo Viewer is (for me) difficult to navigate. Right now I'm looking at ACDSee 14 (www.acdsee.com).
Watch this space, as they say !
A quick P.S. to this. I've been trying out ACDSee 14 today (downloaded the trial version). So far so good. Interface takes a bit of getting used to but that's because it is not dumbed down and allows one to fine-tune searches etc. Editing of metatags is very limited (one has to buy the Pro version for that and the Pro version is $200+) but that's not a problem because Microsoft's free Pro Photo Tools has excellent batch metatagging facilities, including IPTC. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know at this stage that