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Apr 13, 2012 2:03 PM

Today I looked at a JVC GZE 10BUS HD camcorder priced at $229, no internal memory, so an SD card purchase would also be needed and would add approximately $75 to overall cost.

 

 

sd/sdhc card expandable memory

40X optical zoom

2.7" screen size

1080p High Definition Video; 1920 x 1080 / 60p output

image stabilization can be turned on or off

HDMI Out

usb

dolby digital

face detection

time lapse recording

auto record when a subject enters the detection area

Super LoLux - bright in low light

back illuminated CMOS sensor

 

 

 

    1/5.8-inch, 1.5 million pixel  back-illuminated CMOS allows you capture full HD images even in low light

    2.7" LCD (230,000 pixels) for easy operation

    40x optical zoom (in high definition) and 70x dynamic zoom (in standard definition) - In HD, you get up to 40x optical zoom - the industry's highest level. In SD, the Dynamic Zoom function uses nearly all of the effective pixels of the CMOS to achieve up to 70x magnification without any degradation of picture quality

    Intelligent AUTO - Wherever you point the camera, it instantaneously analyzes faces, brightness, color and distance, automatically selects the best settings for the scene. Brightness, sharpness, chroma and gamma values, and more, all optimized

    Advanced image stabilizer - Camera-shake compensation is another important feature of a video camera

    Advanced image stabilizer expands the effective area at wide angle, delivering powerful compensation for camera shake. Now, you can enjoy stable results even if you're trotting alongside your subject

    Easy upload to YouTube™ and Facebook (HD compatible)

    AVCHD Lite and Standard Definition Dual Format - Record in AVCHD Lite to see results on an HDTV or burn 1280 x 720 resolution videos to a Blu-ray disc or DVD. In addition you can record in Standard Definition to edit 720 x 480 resolution videos for longer recording times

    Time-lapse REC - Time-Lapse REC records one frame at a time at set intervals (1 second-80 seconds). So you can watch an hour-long movement in just a short amount of time when played back

    Auto REC - When a subject enters the detecting area and the luminance changes, recording starts automatically. Recording continues as long as there is movement within the area and automatically stops after five seconds of no movement

    2-way grip belt - Detachable strap is designed to work as a standard grip belt or a convenient wrist strap. You can choose which way to best match your style of shooting or carrying at any time

    24Mbps high bit rate recording

    K2 technology for high quality sound

    1920 x 1080/60p output

    HDMI® output (mini)

    Konica Minolta HD lens

    Pixela Everio MediaBrowser 4 for Windows®

    Mobile user guide optimized for Smartphone viewing

    Includes AC adapter, battery pack, AV cable, USB cable and Pixela Everio MediaBrowser 4 software

 

 

 

Happy about the low price for full HD, 40x optical, time lapse and image stabilization, I decided to check out some reviews before buying.  I came across reviews that indicated the 1.5 megapixel sensor size makes the full HD claim verge on dishonesty, and that the propriatery Everio .ced file format means video cannot be edited in other software (such as Premiere Elements 10).  bummer

 

So, I read a post here where someone is using a similar camera, a JVC Everio, so now I'm wondering what's what.

 

Does the 1.5 megapixel size mean the images would be lousy?  If so, how can JVC call it full HD?  Can a .ced file format be used with PE 10?

 

If this isn't a good choice, what other camcorders that have HD, high optical zoom, HDMI out, image stabilization, low light capability, possibly a tracking focus - and a price as low as possible - would be a good choice?

 

thanks,

 

Paz

 
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    Apr 14, 2012 7:49 AM   in reply to _Paz_

    Don't be too concerned about the numbers. That camcorder will give you excellent looking video.

     

    The bigger issue is that JVC Everios sometimes don't interface well with editing programs (including and especially Premiere Elements) as more traditional camcorder formats (like miniDV, HDV and AVCHD). They've gotten better -- but they're not without their liabilities.

     

    So I'd recommend giving it a good test drive before you buy it. Take it all the way through shooting your video, capturing and editing and then outputting a DVD or BluRay disc.

     

    Don't judge this cam based on reviews you've read online or by the numbers in the specs. Only you can say if it will work well with the type of video you shoot and how well it interfaces with Premiere Elements and your computer.

     

    If the dealer won't let you test footage from the camcorder, don't buy it. My personal opinion anyway. I just think you're to have to live with this decision for a couple of years -- and I don't even buy a $29 shirt without trying it on first! So you sure don't want to make this decision based on price point alone.

     
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    Apr 14, 2012 8:06 AM   in reply to _Paz_

    Buy an SD memory card, and a card reader you plug into a USB port, and do some testing in the store with your SD card

     

    Take your SD card home and plug it into your card reader, and import the video into PrElements

     

    If it edits well and you are happy with the A-to-Z results (as Steve says) then buy the camera

     

    My experience with the above idea...

     

    I have a $1,000 Canon Vixia camera for "nice" video, which works really well for me

     

    I also have a 6 year old Kodak still camera that has lost the ability to do file transfers via USB

     

    So... I am looking for a new still camera, and decided to check a camera that would also do video

     

    I recently looked at the Nikon L120 because Costco has a $90 coupon

     

    I took my SD card to my local Costco, and did some filming

     

    I decided NOT to buy the L120 because the auto focus (only) lens would NOT lock on focus in video mode when the telephoto zoom was used

     

    You need to decide what works for you... by doing an actual test

     

    I agree with Steve... if the dealer won't let you use your SD card for a test... don't buy from that dealer

     
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    Apr 15, 2012 6:20 AM   in reply to _Paz_

    As I show you in my books, with AVCHD, Premiere Elements is capable of working natively with the following resolutions and frame rates:

     

    1920x1080 30i

    1440x1080 30i

    1280x720 24p

    1280x720 30p

    1280x720 60p

     

    I would recommend against buying a camcorder that does not shoot in any of these formats. I'd particularly warn against camcorders that ONLY shoot in 1920x1080 60p.

     
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    Apr 16, 2012 2:25 PM   in reply to _Paz_

    24 Mbps is, of course, the bit rate (picture quality), not the frame rate, Paz. So you wouldn't want to shoot in 1920x1080 24p if you planned to edit in Premiere Elements.

     

    As I said above, you want to shoot in 30i.

     

    Vegas Movie Studio is a bit better with non-standard camcorder rates -- but it will still perform version slugglishly and demand a lot of rendering if you put in formats it can't edit natively (and that would include 1920x1080 24p).

     
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    Apr 16, 2012 3:41 PM   in reply to _Paz_

    I'd double-check with JVC, Paz. Although the specs page brags that the camcorder shoots in 60p, I'd be very surprised if it didn't also shoot in 30i or 60i.

     

    If everything else about the cam is perfect for you, I wouldn't throw in the towel so quickly!

     
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