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Keyword hierarchy confusion???

Apr 17, 2012 4:26 PM

Tags: #lightroom #export #key #keywords #metadata #wording #keyword #hierarchy

I'm getting very confused with regards to how a keyword hierarchy behaves on export.

For example, let's say I have the following hierarchy;

People

^Family

^Joe Bloggs

If I tag a photo with 'Joe Bloggs', I would expect keywords 'people', 'family' and Joe Bloggs to be exported, correct?

Now, for the confusion...

In the keyword options for 'people', I have 'export containing keywords' checked. Does this mean that all photos with the keyword tag 'people' will also have keywords 'family' and 'Joe Bloggs' added to them???

I have tested this, and it doesn't seem to be the case. So what is the purpose of 'export containing keywords'???

Any help would be much appreciated!

Many thanks,

Martin

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1. dj_paige,

Apr 17, 2012 4:33 PM in reply to MartinNeep

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I'm getting very confused with regards to how a keyword hierarchy behaves on export.

For example, let's say I have the following hierarchy;

People
^Family
^Joe Bloggs

If I tag a photo with 'Joe Bloggs', I would expect keywords 'people', 'family' and Joe Bloggs to be exported, correct?
Only if that's what you want. If you set up the keywords so Joe Bloggs has "Export Containing Keywords" checked, and Family has "Export Containing Keywords" checked, then the export has them all. But you can set it up other ways, so in other setups only Joe Bloggs gets exported.

In the keyword options for 'people', I have 'export containing keywords' checked. Does this mean that all photos with the keyword tag 'people' will also have keywords 'family' and 'Joe Bloggs' added to them?
This makes no sense to assign "Joe Bloggs" to any photo that has a "People" keyword, and in fact this will not happen. There's no set of options that would cause this to happen.

So what is the purpose of 'export containing keywords'???
To enable you to control what keywords get exported, and what keywords do not get exported.

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2. MartinNeep,

Apr 17, 2012 4:45 PM in reply to dj_paige

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Now I'm really confused!

If you set up the keywords so Joe Bloggs has "Export Containing Keywords" checked

But 'Joe Bloggs' doesn't contain any keywords, it's at the bottom of the tree.

This makes no sense to assign "Joe Bloggs" to any photo that has a "People" keyword, and in fact this will not happen. There's no set of options that would cause this to happen.

I realise that, but I am creating this hierarchy subsequent to all of my images having already been tagged with a 'straight' keyword list. I need to know how it's going to behave.

Can someone explain, in simple terms what 'export containing keywords' means? Particularly 'containing'??? In the example above, 'people' contains 'family' and 'Joe Bloggs', if it doesn't mean export those containing keywords, what does it mean???

Many thanks!

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3. dj_paige,

Apr 17, 2012 5:09 PM in reply to MartinNeep

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Obviously, the word "containing" is what is confusing you.

It means keywords ABOVE it in the hierarchy. Since Family is above Joe Bloggs, if you check "Export Containing Keywords" then Family gets exported. If you don't check "Export Containing Keywords" then Family does NOT get exported.
Can someone explain, in simple terms what 'export containing keywords' means? Particularly 'containing'??? In the example above, 'people' contains 'family' and 'Joe Bloggs', if it doesn't mean export those containing keywords, what does it mean???
In your example, contains is not the same as containing. In fact, they are opposites. A box of cereal contains rice krispies. What is containing the rice crispies? The box is containing the rice crispies.

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