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Loss of quality of exported DVD movie on TV when compared to Digital original

Apr 7, 2012 4:20 AM

Hi

 

Can anyone please suggest a way to limit the loss in quality when burning a completed movie to a DVD for TV playback?

 

When I playback on my Mac monitor (in either MPEG or H.264 saved versions) the image quality is 'mint' and seems as clear/rich as it was filmed. 

 

However, once I have exported (using various 'best options' availible to me in via Prem Pro export menus) the SD (and Blu-ray) DVD playback on a TV seems a long way away from the quality level of the digital original still playing on my Mac.

 

I am prepared for a drop in quality in both SD and even HD formats due to the compression processes, but I'm still disapointed with how amazing my digital copy looks compared to my best DVD efforts.

 

Why is it that commercial 'hollywood' SD are still miles apart from my 'home made' version?

 

Can anyone please suggest their tried/test 'digital alchemy' formular for getting fantastic results onto a DVD/TV playback, please?

 

 

Here are my current details/settings:

 

Canon 5d and XF300 to capture 1080p 25 fps footage (timeline created to match footage)

 

CS5.5 platform = Premiere Pro/After Effects/Media Encoder/Encore (and burn saved ISO image using Roxio Toast version 10)

 

Length of edits = 40 to 50 minutes (approximately) creating HD but mainly SD event movies.

 

Create HD but mainly SD versions

 

Export out of Prem Pro = MPEG or MPED-DVD/Blu-ray H.264

 

Video Quality = 5

 

Field order = None/Progressive (matching my original source footage)

 

VBR 2 = Min 7/Target 8/Max 8.5 or CBR 8

 

Use Maximum Render Quality

 

 

Could the issue be with what happens after the export from PremPro into Encore?

 

What else could/should I be doing?

 

 

All constructive comments are very weclome and appreciated ...

 

Thanks,

 

B

751 Views   7 Replies   Latest reply: Stan Jones, Apr 18, 2012 12:02 PM
 
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  • Stephen_Spider
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    1. Stephen_Spider,
    Apr 7, 2012 3:51 PM   in reply to bromleyboy77
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    HD looks better than SD on a HD monitor, as it should. If your HD exports are extremely lossy, then you have a real issue happening.

     
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  • Jim Curtis
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    Apr 9, 2012 9:51 AM   in reply to bromleyboy77
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    Why is it that commercial 'hollywood' SD are still miles apart from my 'home made' version?

     

    Because they use super-expensive hardware compression.

     

    Still, I make DVDs that look almost exactly like the output from Pr using my Kona card.

     

    I wonder if you're ending up with double-compression on your DVD.  And maybe I'm confused here, but it sounds like you're using Toast and Encore, and I see no reason for that, if so.

     

    There are a few ways to get to DVD from Pr.  The simplest may be just to send your Pr project to Encore, using Dynamic Link.  That will ensure you're only compressing once.

     

    Another is to export from Pr or AME using a DVD preset, and when you take the resulting MPEG2 to Encore, be sure your clips are set to "Don't transcode."  And use the comparable strategy for BR.

     

    CBR at 8 should yield you stunning looking DVDs.

     
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  • Ann Bens
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    3. Ann Bens,
    Apr 9, 2012 10:11 AM   in reply to bromleyboy77
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    If you want to play a dvd on a hdtv you need a dvd player with upscaler or a BD player.

    I think you min target of 7 is too high.

    Always use mpeg2-dvd and not just mpeg.

     
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  • Stephen_Spider
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    Apr 16, 2012 11:22 PM   in reply to Ann Bens
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    Ann wrote - "Always use mpeg2-dvd and not just mpeg."

     

    This is not the case in my experience. As long as one has a grasp of DVD compliant mpeg2 and can customize the settings, why would they need to use adobe's mpeg2-dvd preset?

     

    This issue is common where I work, because we broadcast mpeg2 SD files. For this purpose, I have generated a host of mpeg2 presets based on program length. The resulting files work with a multitude of DVD burning software without recompression. Is there a benefit to the mpeg2-dvd presets that I don't know about?

     
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    Apr 17, 2012 9:27 AM   in reply to Stephen_Spider
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    As long as one has a grasp of DVD compliant mpeg2 and can customize the settings, why would they need to use adobe's mpeg2-dvd preset?

     

    The answer is because the first part of your qualification is rarely true.  You and your work mates would be the exception, not the rule.

     

    So, Adobe took the guess work out of it and made it simple for folks.

     
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  • Ann Bens
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    Apr 18, 2012 11:38 AM   in reply to Stephen_Spider
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    With mpeg2-dvd you have two file m2v and an audio file. Providing you leave multiplexer to None.

    The benifit here is the authoring tool does not have to demux the file and stich it back together again before burning to disk.

     
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  • Stan Jones
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    Apr 18, 2012 12:02 PM   in reply to Ann Bens
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    You can set the multiplexing to none in the MPEG2 option, but that is not the default.

     

    For that and other reasons, the MPEG2-DVD is going to be less likely to cause problems for many users.

     

    The MPEG2 option has settings that should not be changed for DVD use (and cannot be changed in the MPEG2-DVD option).

     
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