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What is the equivilant of the Cyan/Red slider?

Apr 21, 2012 8:30 AM

I'm so used to the color balance tool, but I love that camera raw is so easy to change a large folder of images quickly without an action.

 

The whitle balance (is like blue/yellow slider), and the tint, (which is like the magenta/ green slider), there is no equivilant of the red/ cyan slider there?

 

Ditto same question for the white/ black points in the levels adjustment layer -- is there an equivilant of that in camera Raw? So nice to be able to quickly click on a white spot and see it everything becomes nuetral. Don't see that ability in Camera Raw, maybe I missed it. (assuming you did not take a grey card shot for the white balance tool).

 

Finally I remember, is it lightroom though that there were all these color sliders, very in depth, can't locate that now! thanks.

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  • Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață
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    1. Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață,
    Apr 21, 2012 9:20 AM   in reply to kevin4545
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    A combination of two sliders:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/CIExy1931.png/300px-CIExy1931.png

     
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    Apr 21, 2012 9:31 AM   in reply to kevin4545
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    Expanding on what Dorin says, if you combine the effects of the Blue-Yellow and Green-Magenta sliders, you are actually emulating a Cyan-Red slider, so one is not essential.

     

     

    Set your white point with Exposure (Whites in ACR7), and black point with Blacks.

     

    Set grey point with Shift-click.

     

    Colour sliders are available in HSL tab (only on CS, not Elements), and also via Targetted Adjustment Tool.

     

    It's all there. If anything, Camera Raw tools are a more logical set than Photoshop's for photographers.

     
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  • kevin4545
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    Apr 21, 2012 10:46 AM   in reply to Yammer P
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    Thanks guys, so the third slider in the color balance adjustment tool is superfulous? wow.

     

    "Set your white point with Exposure (Whites in ACR7), and black point with Blacks."

     

    You are saying those two sliders, exposure and black are equivilant of clicking with black white points?  KInd of cofunsing.

     

    HSL tab, is where?? thanks.

     
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  • ssprengel
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    Apr 21, 2012 10:54 AM   in reply to kevin4545
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    Click across all the little tabs on the right to see what adjustments are available.  The HSL sliders are only in the newer versions of ACR, and you haven’t said what version of Photoshop and ACR you’re using.

     
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    Apr 21, 2012 2:39 PM   in reply to ssprengel
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    SS, tabs you mean, Basic, detail etc, what am I looking for  HSL? don't think I see it, I'm on 6.1 camera raw/ CS5

     
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    Apr 21, 2012 4:08 PM   in reply to kevin4545
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    It's the 4th tab: called HSL / Grayscale. Shortcut key Ctrl-Alt-4.

     
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    Apr 21, 2012 7:56 PM   in reply to Yammer P
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    Ah, thanks Y, what does HSL stand for? is there a way to bring them quickly back all to zero?

    And the ability, what do you call it to drag right on the face up and down, in LR, still is not available in PS?

     
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  • Jeff Schewe
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    Apr 21, 2012 8:22 PM   in reply to kevin4545
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    HSL+Hue, Saturation & Lightness...

     

    And what you are talking about is the Targeted Adjustment Tool (TAT).

     
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    Apr 21, 2012 9:11 PM   in reply to Jeff Schewe
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    THANKS, TAT, Not in PS yet?

     
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    Apr 22, 2012 1:18 AM   in reply to kevin4545
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    kevin4545 wrote:

     

    THANKS, TAT, Not in PS yet?

    By the way, you activate TAT by pressing T, and you can then select its function by right-clicking the preview, and choosing from Curve, Hue, Saturation, Luminance or Grey mix. Click, and Drag a sample to adjust.

     

    I don't know if there's anything equivalent in Photoshop. There's nothing that I'm aware of.

     
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  • Jeff Schewe
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    Apr 22, 2012 9:04 AM   in reply to Yammer P
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    Yammer P wrote:

     

     

    I don't know if there's anything equivalent in Photoshop. There's nothing that I'm aware of.

     

     

    Curves, Hue&Sat and B&W adjustment layers all have the ability to turn on "on the image" adjustments like the TAT. It's just not called that. Look for the little hand with arrows on the adjustment layers controls.

     
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    Apr 22, 2012 1:47 PM   in reply to Jeff Schewe
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    Yammer, click T in LR? I did not and I did not get TAT.

     

    Jeff, sorry did not understand that "turning on the image" meant.

     

    Don't see a little hand in adjustment layers, just see the three little triangle pointers up at bottoms of the dialogue box to pull sliders. TAT so unique in that you are sliding right on a nose or a cheek.

     
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    Apr 22, 2012 1:57 PM   in reply to kevin4545
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    kevin4545 wrote:

     

    Yammer, click T in LR? I did not and I did not get TAT.

    In LR? This is the Camera Raw forum.

     
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  • Jeff Schewe
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    Apr 22, 2012 2:38 PM   in reply to kevin4545
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    kevin4545 wrote:

     

    Don't see a little hand in adjustment layers, just see the three little triangle pointers up at bottoms of the dialogue box to pull sliders. TAT so unique in that you are sliding right on a nose or a cheek.

     

    Are you using Photoshop CS5? The PS Adjustment layers have the PS version of TAT which allows on the image adjustments.

     

    TAT-inCurves.jpg

     
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  • kevin4545
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    Apr 22, 2012 3:31 PM   in reply to Jeff Schewe
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    Jeff, thanks, yes I'm on CS5 (does this forum do signatures?)

     

    I use mostly levels and color balance, don't see the TAT hand.

     

    (and then for ACR?)

     
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