Have you tried a direct export to PDF using File>Export>PDF (print)

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Eugene Tyson wrote:

 

Have you tried a direct export to PDF using File>Export>PDF (print)

 

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In this case it appears that he's trying to make the separations himself (at least that's the way I nterpreted it) directly from ID, and you can't do that when you export.

Manish,

If I understand your question, you can't assign a spot color to the text by adding a condition, you have to do that as a separate task -- text color and condition are not related. However, if the conditions will be mutually exclusive and not all visible at the time of output, there is no requirement that each language have a unique color because you are manually separating them onto different plates by hiding the ones you don't want.

Looks like you are using Windows, so you can shortcut by Printing to PDF (it automatically prints to postscript and invokes distiller so you don't need to do it manually).

I think I may be responsible for some confusion here. Looks like I misread the original message a little. It doesn't say he applied the spot color as part of the condition or applied the spot color to the condition (that's waht happens when I start reading complicated posts as soon as I wake up), and if you look closer than I did at the screen shots you'll see the condition colors don't match the spot colors assigned to the languages.

My apologies for that.

Doesn't change the strategy, however.

this is something which would happen....because when you are creating the Postcript that means you will be creating the file for print and while printing the color overlapping doesn't happen..

create 3 different layer , and DRAG the "spanish" and "english" in the layer to the new layer you will create.

When making the PDF or postscript , show the layers for the language which you want and hide the other, and then create PDF or postscript.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my original response. To do the layer method you must TURN OFF ALL BUT ONE LANGUAGE (hide the layers) and make separate PDFs of the language plates,

OR you must set EVERY language frame to overprint to get separations where the languages higher in the stack have not knocked out the text on lower layers (or knocked out any background they might overlap).

I think it's easier to leave all langiuages set in [Black], which should overprint by default, and hide layers.

No matter what method you choose, if all language layers are visible at the same time it will be difficult to work, and a composite PDF will be a mess.

In general, it is the responsibility of the pre-press department at the printer to make separations and impose the file for printing. It is the designer's responsibility, however, to provide a document that will separate correctly.

When you make separations you are creating a grayscale image of what will print in each ink color. This represents either exposed or unexposed areas on the plates. The darker the gray, the darker the color.

For a good understanding of what you are seeing, go to Window > Output > Separations Preview... and turn ON the separatations preview, then turn off the visibility of all but one plate at a time.

Have you talked to the printer to determine that they really want you to be making separations? That would be a very unusual request.

I guess I would have to say it's a valuable lesson to learn about how separations work. I used to take the film and plates for a four-color job into my classroom, along with the finished print, but the probabilty that you will need to actually make your own separations (using the separtions preview is very common, though), or need to print to postscript and distill, are both pretty slim in this century unless you work in pre-press.

I used to have to make seps from my Windows files for the printer who only had Macs, but I haven't done that in more than ten years, and not at all since printers started accepting PDF.