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DAndrews1969
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Is there an easy way to create or import tables into muse

Apr 20, 2012 5:55 AM

I'm trying to create a website that used tables for things like league tables and results, but I need an easy way of placing them into muse.

 

I've had a go at creating tables in dreamweaver and importing the resulting html and i've created tables in Indesign and imported them as jpegs, but this obviously then does not allow me to edit on the fly.

 

Can anybody help.

5009 Views   16 Replies   Latest reply: Ellen@McConaghy, May 16, 2013 10:10 PM
 
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  • morgan_in_london
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    1. morgan_in_london,
    Apr 20, 2012 5:59 AM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    This one has come up before on the other forum many times, and as yet there is no way to import editable tables directly in Muse.

     
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  • Corey@Adobe
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    2. Corey@Adobe,
    Apr 20, 2012 10:16 AM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    Morgan is correct. Muse does not currently offer the ability to create tables. You would need to create your table outside of Muse and use Object > Insert HTML to add it to your page. Please create an idea topic (http://forums.adobe.com/community/muse/ideas) for adding tables so the community can vote.

     

    Best regards,

    Corey

     
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  • topelovely
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    3. topelovely,
    Apr 24, 2012 2:56 PM   in reply to Corey@Adobe
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    Hmm. then what are we expecting in 1.0 release of Muse if for four months this important request is not showing up as a possible feature as part of Muse release surprises.

     
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    4. Marian Driscoll,
    Apr 24, 2012 3:12 PM   in reply to topelovely
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    Developers rarely introduce new features during a public beta. This period is for resolving bugs, not fulfilling feature requests. If a new feature was to be added, it would need to go through additional beta testing. The Muse team does not have the time. They are already behind. What you see now (and what you have seen for 6 months) is roughly what you will get as a retail product, hopefully with less bugs.

     
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  • DAndrews1969
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    5. DAndrews1969,
    Apr 24, 2012 4:16 PM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    I appreciate all the views, it just surprises me that with all these capabilities already built into indesign, that adobe cannot migrate options such as tables over to muse, which claims you can "Create websites as easily as you create layouts for print. You can design and publish original HTML pages to the latest web standards without writing code".

     
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  • DAndrews1969
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    6. DAndrews1969,
    Apr 25, 2012 11:39 AM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    Looking at Adobe's CS6 release, it seems as though you may be able to create work directly in Indesign and save for web, will this be a way of producing tables instead?

     
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  • topelovely
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    7. topelovely,
    Apr 26, 2012 2:28 AM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    DAndrews1969 wrote:

     

    Looking at Adobe's CS6 release, it seems as though you may be able to create work directly in Indesign and save for web, will this be a way of producing tables instead?

    Where did you find that? Can you share the link. Thanks

     
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  • DAndrews1969
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    8. DAndrews1969,
    Apr 26, 2012 5:40 AM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    well I've since found out that CS5.5 exports pages from indesign to html, but the link I was reading about CS6 was as follows:

     

    http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/features.html

     

    I tried exporting a table from 5.5 but it doesn't seem to recognise the specific column spaces I have set up, hopefully 6 will have improved on this.

     
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    9. topelovely,
    Apr 26, 2012 6:58 AM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    DAndrews1969 wrote:

     

    well I've since found out that CS5.5 exports pages from indesign to html, but the link I was reading about CS6 was as follows:

     

    http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/features.html

     

    I tried exporting a table from 5.5 but it doesn't seem to recognise the specific column spaces I have set up, hopefully 6 will have improved on this.

    We hope so. From my experience with indesign cs5.5. The export to HTML feature does not maintain the layout of an indesign document. You will require a developer with knowledge of HTML to style accordingingly in DW. I don't think this is an intended workflow by Adobe. Until then I dont think Muse or Indesign will export to HTML while maintaining the integrity of the layout design including adaptive fluid layout support. The closest the Adobe team have been able to do is to export to epub format.

     

    My observation, Adobe should have given print designers option of exporting indesign files to Muse(With support for fluid/adaptive layout just as the export to epub format is supported). That way the fear of killing another tool in the Adobe bouquet won't arise. Something like 'Export to Muse' in Indesign cs6 would have been the killer. Why? Web design trend is converging with print design metaphor. I think Adobe should be leading that trend now. Tomorrow might be too crowded.

     
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  • BaseZero
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    10. BaseZero,
    Apr 26, 2012 7:47 AM   in reply to topelovely
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    Hey everyone. You can bring tables into Muse. You just have to do the heavy lifting with Dreamweaver to set it up and create your formatting for the text in the tables, etc.

     

    Here's a live example of one we did for a menu: http://tommyspizzapub.com/pizza.html

     

    The HTML for the table is preceded by the CSS for styling in the HTML object box.

     

    We keep the DW page with the client files if modification is ever needed.

     

    A real good idea would be for Muse to allow "live" import of HTML documents connected to their own CSS stylesheets and then of course bring them along on export or upload to the BC system.

     
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    11. Marian Driscoll,
    Apr 26, 2012 9:08 AM   in reply to topelovely
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    topelovely wrote:

     

    ...My observation, Adobe should have given print designers option of exporting indesign files to Muse(With support for fluid/adaptive layout just as the export to epub format is supported). ...Something like 'Export to Muse' in Indesign cs6 would have been the killer...

    Adobe already tried this type of killing with InDesign->GoLive.

     

    http://creativesuitepodcast.com/webpage/in_design_to_html_via_go_live

     
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  • topelovely
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    12. topelovely,
    Apr 26, 2012 2:29 PM   in reply to Marian Driscoll
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    Adobe already tried this type of killing with InDesign->GoLive.

     

    http://creativesuitepodcast.com/webpage/in_design_to_html_via_go_live

    Marian, you gave me some nostalgic moments again. I remembered how efficient GoLive was. Ha! Adobe! Why? Why? Maybe Adobe will return that button to indesign cs6 'as package for Muse' when Muse is finally release and as an indesign cs6 update in record time. Thanks Marian. I hope someone is listening

     
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    13. Marian Driscoll,
    May 14, 2012 11:00 AM   in reply to Corey@Adobe
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    There was a suggestion for tables in the "ideas" forum but it was recently yanked by a overly zealous forum moderator instead of censoring the individual abusive posts contained within. A new poll (with a reset count of just 1) appears here:

    http://forums.adobe.com/ideas/1618

     
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  • MY HONEY F
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    14. MY HONEY F,
    Oct 16, 2012 11:47 PM   in reply to Marian Driscoll
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    adobe muse same or similar to the netobjects fusion but netobjects already using tables and rich gadgets

     
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  • digmarketer
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    15. digmarketer,
    Jan 15, 2013 10:55 AM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    If you are publishing your Muse website to Business Catalyst, the best thing to do is create a template in Muse, put in a placeholder for body text. Then, add the html to the specific page that you want the table on. Then, you can edit directly in Business Catalyst and publish edits live more quickly.

     
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  • Ellen@McConaghy
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    16. Ellen@McConaghy,
    May 16, 2013 10:10 PM   in reply to DAndrews1969
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    I created a table in excel, saved as a web page and then imported the HTML - kept boarders everything exactly how I wanted and easy

     
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