Adobe Community: Who's 3D Tracker in AE CS6?

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1. lasvideo,

Apr 12, 2012 6:15 AM in reply to NateMac000

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Tthis 3D tracker is from the wizards at Adobe.

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2. Mylenium,

Apr 12, 2012 7:42 AM in reply to NateMac000

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It's based on the same principles that drive the warp stabilizer and it's Adobe's own creation.

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3. dh91,

Apr 12, 2012 7:27 AM in reply to NateMac000

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Interesting!

Depending on how good it is, I wonder what this will mean for the least expensive 3d tracker out there, camera tracker?

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4. lasvideo,

Apr 12, 2012 7:29 AM in reply to dh91

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Cameratracker still has certain functions that AE doesnt . You can choose the right tool for the job.

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5. NateMac000,

Apr 12, 2012 7:43 AM in reply to lasvideo

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It will be nice to put this up with the new 3D tracker from Imagineer Systems that is being released with Mocha v3.

I'm assuming we'll be able to export the camera to something like Cinema 4D, will there be any null values to export as well?

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6. lasvideo,

Apr 12, 2012 7:45 AM in reply to NateMac000

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Mocha 3 is included in AE CS6.

Not sure about null export.

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7. Mylenium,

Apr 12, 2012 7:46 AM in reply to dh91

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It doesn't do miracles. Just like The Foundry's 3D Tracker, it only does uncalibrated tracks, meaning it bears no relation to any real geometry or realworld units. None of this 3D stuff does and it's still gonna be tricky doing anything with it that requires to do more than matching some of AE's own stuff with an existing shot. If you need it to work for 3D programs and think you are getting away fro free when upgrading to CS6, then that's probably an illusion. You still need SynthEyes, PFTrack, Matchmover for that, you may just need them a little less often for more trivial things.

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8. NateMac000,

Apr 12, 2012 7:47 AM in reply to lasvideo

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"Mocha 3 for AE" or Full featured Mocha 3?

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9. NateMac000,

Apr 12, 2012 7:49 AM in reply to NateMac000

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I've been a huge supporter of IS since Monet, Mokey, Motor, and Mocha... I'm glad they've got together with AE in the last couple years and moved all there stuff to one piece of software, Mocha Pro.

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10. lasvideo,

Apr 12, 2012 7:49 AM in reply to NateMac000

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Mocha 3 for AE. I have regular Mocha as well. The only difference is the amount of export options for various file formats. And Mocha Pro is a whole different product.

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11. NateMac000,

Apr 12, 2012 7:54 AM in reply to NateMac000

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Will there be a beta for AE CS6 as they did with Photoshop?

(Off subject: What ended up selling my on PS CS6 was the crop and rotate tool, Brilliant! haha, it's the little things in life...)

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12. NateMac000,

Apr 12, 2012 7:55 AM in reply to NateMac000

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Not to diminish AE in anyway, if you want to check out Imagineer Systems 3D Camera Solver, head over to https://vimeo.com/40120473 I'w watching it right now.

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13. lasvideo,

Apr 12, 2012 7:57 AM in reply to NateMac000

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Nate, since Adobe has announced CS6 I would guess that its past the beta testing stage and due for release in the near future.

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14. Rick Gerard,

Apr 12, 2012 3:56 PM in reply to NateMac000

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If you want to get 3-D camera data and real world geometry from camera tracking, try Blender. It does an amazingly good job for an open source software. The latest version will also export to AE.

The built in camera tracker with CS 6 does an amazing job on certain kinds of shots. Blenders built in tracking does an amazing job on similar kinds of shots. Neither work with all shots, nor will any 3-D tracking software work with every shot. If your production is going to utilize any kind of 3-D tracking them, you had better do some production planning. There is nothing worse than trying to fix something that can't be fixed when just a little bit of planning and a little better camerawork would make the job easy.

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15. Todd_Kopriva,

Apr 14, 2012 11:20 AM in reply to Rick Gerard

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Regarding the 3D Camera Tracker compared with the camera tracker from The Foundry:

Our goal was to make a camera tracker that was very, very easy to use that would give good results in the great majority of cases. We deliberately simplified in a few areas where added complexity would make things harder but might also add some extra configurability to work with difficult scenes. For this reason, we think that most people will be satisfied with our 3D Camera Tracker most of the time... but you may need to use something else for especially tricky scenes.

See this video for a demonstration of how easy it is:

http://www.video2brain.com/en/videos-13035.htm

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16. Todd_Kopriva,

Apr 14, 2012 11:20 AM in reply to Todd_Kopriva

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exporting 3D camera tracker data to Cinema 4D and other 3D applications (Chris Meyer):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PFMnvgiiCc

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17. {KMS},

Apr 26, 2012 8:06 AM in reply to Todd_Kopriva

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Will the version of Mocha AE that ships with CS6 have the camera solver for 3d? Looking at this article, it leads me to believe that the version that ships with AE will not have the solver included.

"mocha AE is available in two version: mocha AE CS6, which comes as a free bundle with every copy of the newly launched Adobe After Effects CS6 and is specifically optimized for After Effects; and the mocha AE v3 standalone application, which adds new Camera Solve features"

I was excited to see the 3d camera solver in mocha, but hoping that it would come with the version included.

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18. lasvideo,

Apr 26, 2012 8:15 AM in reply to {KMS}

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In AE CS6 you get a dedicated camera tracker which works great. Try it after viewing the tutorial and I think you will agree.

http://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/3d-camera-tracker

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19. Todd_Kopriva,

Apr 26, 2012 9:13 AM in reply to {KMS}

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After Effects CS6 comes with version 2.7 of mocha-AE. The new camera solving features were added to mocha in version 3.0.

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