In PV2010 with some photos I found that starting with a linear tone curve was helpful. Is there any way to duplicate that in PV2012 if you want to start with a totally flat curve? Sounds like flat is no longer flat. Also, what was the intention when they made the decision to make linear in PV2012 the equivalent of medium in PV2010?

I recommend using DNG Profile Editor to create camera calibration profile(s) with a reduced contrast "linear equivalent" tone curve. That way, you don't end up with a bunch of points already on the curve in Lightroom.

You can either create an equivalent curve by eye, or if you want it exact you can use numbers (it's a bit of a stunt, but I'll help if you choose to go that route).

Thanks Rob. I will have a look at the DNG Profile editor. I am not familiar with it at this point and will probably need to take some time with it. Thanks for the offer to help me out should I try that route. In practice, do you find the enhanced contrast of the new linear objectionable?

JA430 wrote:

 

In practice, do you find the enhanced contrast of the new linear objectionable?

I don't care about it at all, to be honest.

One can always use the contrast slider and/or tone curve to create the desired contrast regardless of the starting point, and I have my own camera calibration profiles for different things anyway, so "linear" to me just means "not yet modified...".

If it's any consolation, I think Adobe should have provided a "legacy linear" tone curve preset, to match the linear in PV2010, thus avoiding the need to use DPE to accomplish what some were used to doing natively in previous Lightroom version. But in the interest of making lemonade from lemons, consider trying to see this as an opportunity to become familiar with DPE .

-Agfaclack- wrote:

 

after using it for a while and close inspection i thinks it´s a double sided sword.

for some images it works good for others it´s horrible.

No argument.

-Agfaclack- wrote:

 

...but i speak about color/brigthness changes.

 

imo it should be reworked / improved.

How would you describe these proposed improvements?

R

Fair enough - thanks.

R

Thanks Rob. That makes good sense. Guess I just got in the habit of turning to the linear tone curve as a way of attempting to start from a more neutral point as far as contrast was concerned.

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Also, when using the clarity brush, many times it seems as if where I paint it on it actually lightens it up

I expierenced a lighting up caused by brushing the clarity when brushing the clarity in PV2010 and then converting it to PV2012: When adjusting the clarity slider in the brushed and P'V converted image, the clarity slider inevitably resulted in a brightening (or darkening) of the brushed area.

The problem however disappeared when deleting the brush, brushing the same area again and adjusting the clarity slider only then!

@Adobe: Can you please check the situation. Would be ready to provide you with more details. Just contact me if needed.