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Antosia11
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slow laggy playback on Premiere

Apr 29, 2012 12:00 AM

Tags: #premiere #slow #gpu #cpu #laptop_configuration

Hey like many others I am having issues with slow video playback on Premiere cs 5.5

 

This is the laptop I recently purchased specifically so I could run this software. I am disappointed to say the least:

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0062JM4L6/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

 

  • Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM Processor
  • Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit
  • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M discrete graphics (GDR5 1.5GB VRAM)
  • Accelerated performance with MSI TDE Technology
  • HDD: 1TB (500 GB*2 RAID 0) 7200 RPM
  • RAM: DDRIII 12GB (4GB*3)

 

When playing back video, the CPU is used at a max of 20% and the GPU is something similarily low. I purchased this laptop

a month ago and have only installed media related software like photoshop, premiere etc.

 

After Effects works beautifully for me, while Premiere does not.

I use Canon 5D HD video at 1080p video at 30fps

 

I realize this issue has been posted numerous times, but I am not sure how the issues apply specifically to my laptop,

so I was wondering if anyone could help me out? Should I just get an earlier version of premiere?

1126 Views   6 Replies   Latest reply: Antosia11, Oct 20, 2012 1:31 PM
 
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  • Harm Millaard
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    1. Harm Millaard,
    Apr 29, 2012 12:27 AM   in reply to Antosia11
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    Break out the raid to individual disks and add an eSATA 7200 RPM disk. Tune the system and get rid of the bunch of crap that most laptops come with.

     
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    2. pejaka,
    Apr 29, 2012 5:32 AM   in reply to Antosia11
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    As Harm pointed out it is not good to use system disk for editing.

    If you have possibility to tweak your laptop, it will work much better.

    I have almost the same laptop except with GTX570M display adapter.

    Here is a thread couple months ago:

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/4124886#4124886

     

    After that I took away optical drive and bought HDD Caddy from Newmodeus.com and installed another WD Caviar Black 750G.

    So now I have 120 G SSD as system disk and two 750G disk striped together as data and project disk.

    Project disk's speed is now 225 Mbytes/s read and write

     

    If I need optical drive I use external.

     

    120 G system disk is a little too small because I'd like to keep the old version of Adobe Production suite with CS6.

     

     

    You can also use USB3 and eSATA external drives.

    If you can have two or more disks in an external box it is of course better.

    Have you "hacked" your GTX560M?

     

    pena

     
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  • John T Smith
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    3. John T Smith,
    Apr 29, 2012 7:45 AM   in reply to Antosia11
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    >HDD: 1TB (500 GB*2 RAID 0) 7200 RPM

     

    Even in raid, only one "effective" hard drive is not going to work very well... here is why...

     

    Trying to use only ONE Hard Drive for Video Editing

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    You are a music conductor, with a baton that you use to point to various parts of the orchestra... this is like Windows pointing to various parts of the hard drive to do Windows housekeeping or to load program segments for various functions

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    Now, at the same time and with the same hand... while still using the baton to conduct the orchestra... pick up a bow and play a fiddle... this would be doing something with your video file at the same time as all the other work

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    You as a person cannot do both at the same time with the same hand

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    A computer is a LITTLE better, in that it can switch from one kind of task to another very quickly... but not quickly enough for EASY video editing

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    You need AT LEAST two hard drives (separate drives, never a partition http://forums.adobe.com/thread/650708 for more) with Windows (or Mac OS) and software on your boot drive, and video files on a 2nd drive so the boot drive is not slowed down by trying to do everything

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    Partition = Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/957286

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    I find that the three drives I use work very well for me, for editing AVCHD video... some people use a 4th drive, so video INPUT files are on drive three and all OUTPUT files are on drive four... I only bought a mid-tower case instead of a full tower case (my bad... but had to fit in the space available on my office desk!) so I use the three drives that will fit

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    Depending on your exact hardware (motherboard brand & model AND USB2 enclosure brand & model AND external hard drive brand & model) AND the type of video file, you may... or may NOT... be able to use an external USB2 hard drive for SD (Standard Definition) video editing

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    Steve Grisetti in the Premiere Elements forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856208 and Jim Simon in the Premiere Pro forum http://forums.adobe.com/thread/856433 use USB externals for editing

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    A USB3 hard drive connected to a motherboard with USB3 is supposed to be fast enough for video editing (I don't have such, so don't know) but eSata DOES have a fast enough data transfer for video editing... I have not used the eSata Dock below... for reference only, YMMV and all the usual disclaimers

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    http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-BlacX-eSATA-Docking-Station/dp/B001A 4HAFS/ref=cm_cmu_pg_t

     
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  • Antosia11
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    4. Antosia11,
    Apr 29, 2012 11:47 AM   in reply to John T Smith
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    Ok I will

     

    1) try to figure out how to break raid 0 onto individual disks

    2) find out if I can use my HP SimpleSave Desktop dt1000i 1 TB External Hard Drive as my third harddrive

     

    Also, YES I have hacked my 560 graphics card, the yellow line is there indicating I have Mercury Playback

     

    It was my understanding that I had 2 harddrives, are you saying I only have one that is partitioned?

    I have a OS_Install (C:) Drive (552GB) and a Data (D:) Drive 368GB

     

    If I have two, I'll try to incorporate my external as a third...

     

    Thanks Harm, pejaka and John for your help, I hope I am understanding this correctly Off I go....

     
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  • Harm Millaard
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    5. Harm Millaard,
    Apr 29, 2012 12:18 PM   in reply to Antosia11
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    From a hardware point of view, you have:

     

    2 HDD's configured as a single disk for Windows by raiding it into a single volume, aggravated by your solution to partition this volume into two separate volumes.

     

    NEVER partition disks. Do not stripe raid your OS disk. Only stripe disks where it does not matter if you lose all data, where you can say, 'so what, I don't care'. Most people will say that they hate, and I mean really hate to reinstall the OS from scratch, tune it again, get new activation codes for their software, run out of activation codes and have to request new ones (your request will be answered in a couple of weeks...) and similar.

     

    Basically you need four disks (at least from Windows look at it), of which three are 7200 RPM fast disks and a backup disk. 1 for OS/programs, 1 for pagefile/scratch and 1 for projects/media and the last one for backups. That is the practical minimum, but more are welcome.

     
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  • Antosia11
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    6. Antosia11,
    Oct 20, 2012 1:31 PM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    edited

     
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