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Cs 5.5 render problem, severe loss in quality.

Apr 30, 2012 9:26 AM

I film on a Canon 60D in full HD quality. The footage right out of the camera is excellent. However, when I edit it and render it through Adobe Premiere it looses a large amount of quality. It gets what appears to be a layer of white noise on top of it. Here are some screenshots to help illustrate:

 

Uten navn.jpg This one shows the original footage in Windows Media Player and the rendered footage in VLC.

 

Uten navn 2.jpg This one shows the original footage in VLC and the rendered footage in Windows Media Player. Not as big a difference but still too big a difference for me to ignore.

 

you.jpg This one shows the original footage on the left and the rendered footage on the right in 1080p on youtube. Still a large difference in quality which shouldn't be there.

 

The following are my complete render settings.

 

RENDER 10.jpg

 

render 2.jpgrender.jpg

render 4.jpgrender 3.jpg

render 6.jpgrender 5.jpg

render 8.jpgrender 7.jpg

render 9.jpg

 

 

 

What is wrong?

1047 Views   15 Replies   Latest reply: Todd_Kopriva, May 2, 2012 9:25 PM
 
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  • Jim Simon
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    1. Jim Simon,
    Apr 30, 2012 10:31 AM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    What is wrong?

     

    Your testing methodology.  You can't trust software players, computer monitors and especially Youtube uploads to judge the quality of media.  For that, you need a properly calibrated external TV.

     
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  • DanielFilming
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    2. DanielFilming,
    Apr 30, 2012 11:23 AM   in reply to Jim Simon
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    Ok.

     

    Can someone look over my render settings and tell me if I should change anything?

     
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  • Ann Bens
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    3. Ann Bens,
    Apr 30, 2012 11:50 AM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    Does not the Canon shoot in 1920x1080?

    Your sequence settings are 1440x1080 1,33 aspect.

    Why the audio bitrate so high?

     
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  • DanielFilming
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    4. DanielFilming,
    Apr 30, 2012 12:41 PM   in reply to Ann Bens
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    I tried changing my sequence settings to 1920x1080 but I'm unable to. It looks like this:

     

    rgfsg.jpg

     

    What do I do?

     

    "Why the audio bitrate so high?"

     

    Because I'm self taught and have no idea what I'm doing. Educate me please.

     
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  • Harm Millaard
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    5. Harm Millaard,
    Apr 30, 2012 12:56 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    Start with using the format your camera uses. XDCAM HD is wrong. If you don't know what codec your camera uses, forget about a sequence preset and just import a clip from the Media Browser and right click on the clip in the project panel and select New Sequence from Clip.

     

    'Every autodidact had an idiot as a teacher'

     
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  • Ann Bens
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    6. Ann Bens,
    Apr 30, 2012 1:08 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    If you have no idea what you are doing stick to the default settings/presets, they are usually the best.

    Make a new sequence and copy everything from the old into the new one.

    This looks more appropriate for your camera.

     

    dslr.png

     

    For learning Premiere you can start here:

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/3804423#3804423

     
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  • DanielFilming
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    7. DanielFilming,
    Apr 30, 2012 1:15 PM   in reply to Ann Bens
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    A digital dslr preset? I should get my eyes checked!

     

    Still, I would like to hear from someone who knows the optimal render settings I need. I want to learn as much as possible and you don't learn much using default settings.

     

    Some to the point questions:

     

    How are my Bitrate settings? is the bitrate encoding correct? target and maximum bitrate?

     

    sfsdfsdfsfsf.jpg

     

     

     

    What does "Level" mean and should I chose a higher one?

    sfddsfsdfsdfsfsfds.jpg

     

     

    AUDIO:

     

    What should my codec be and why?

    codec.jpg

    Should my frequency be 44 or 48? Why?

    frequency.jpg

     

    What bitrate should I use?

    bitrate.jpg

     

     

    Thanks a lot for your help, Ann!

     
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  • Ann Bens
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    8. Ann Bens,
    Apr 30, 2012 1:24 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    What is final destination of your footage?

     
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  • DanielFilming
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    9. DanielFilming,
    Apr 30, 2012 1:29 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    As of right now it is youtube since I'm using youtube as a tool to get better at filmmaking and editing. The future however will hold larger platforms.

     
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  • shooternz
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    10. shooternz,
    Apr 30, 2012 1:34 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    Try using the H264 - Youtube preset after getting uyour sequence and camera settings matched..

     

    BTW - Higher video bitrates are what provide better quality

     
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  • Ann Bens
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    11. Ann Bens,
    Apr 30, 2012 1:40 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    Use the HDTV 1080p 24 high quality preset.

    You only need to change the framerate to 23.976 and check Render Use Maximum Render Quality; don't touch the rest.

     

    Try again with the new sequence setting.

     
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  • DanielFilming
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    12. DanielFilming,
    Apr 30, 2012 1:52 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    Thanks, that looks pretty alright. Still a slight decrease in quality though but.. Not much more to do about it.

     

    Question:

     

    Aspect ratio was set at wide screen but when I changed to square pixels I saw no change. What Should I use?

    aspect ratio.jpg

     
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  • Ann Bens
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    13. Ann Bens,
    Apr 30, 2012 2:10 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    I said dont touch anything other then i told you to change.

    You will always suffer a slight quality loss.

    Did you upload to YT?

     
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  • DanielFilming
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    14. DanielFilming,
    Apr 30, 2012 2:31 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    Yeah I checked it, it's fine.

     
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  • Todd_Kopriva
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    15. Todd_Kopriva,
    May 2, 2012 9:25 PM   in reply to DanielFilming
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    Ann gave you a good link, but here it is again...

     

    Start here to learn Premiere Pro: http://adobe.ly/psbYc4

     
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