I recently filmed a school talent show to create DVDs for the parents. I'll be using PrE 9 to edit. I understand the output for the movie will need to be MPEG2 for the DVD. We used three different cameras (I know this is a bad thing to do with PrE), but we used what we have available. Though, we did use a GoPro Hero2 mounted on the piano to give a unique perspective. Consequently I need to convert the video files into a common format for editing. Is there a "best" file format to edit in or is there a file format that is easiest to work with in Premiere Elements while maintaining the best quality for the DVD output?
Here is what we used:
Camera 1 (with the audio track from the sound board) was a Canon Vixia HF300. It exported in the dreaded .mts format (half the show at 24mbps and half at 17mbps)
Camera 2 was a Nikon 5100 as .mov files, 1920x1080, H.264, Linear PCM, Total bit rate 19k
Camera 3 was a GoPro Hero 2 recorded .mp4 1280x780 H.264 Total bit Rate 15k
Since the aspect ratios are not equivalent, I plan on using black bars as opposed to cropping.
I'm editting on an Apple MacBookPro 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 8gb RAM running OSX 10.7
Also, should I use Quicktime to convert these files into the common format I choose? Ironically, all this footage is editable in iMovie, but iMovie is horrible for multi-camera.
Over on the Windows side of the aisle where I am, I would say convert all to DV AVI since the end will be a DVD, not a BluRay
For Mac, I guess the SD version of DV AVI in the MOV wrapper
I have some saved discussions & links, but have NO idea if any of these places have Mac versions
Tools to Convert to DV-AVI http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415317
Convert your HD files to DV-AVI Type II with 48KHz 16-bit Audio
As well as the links just above, use Google to find conversion software
I have NOT used the products below, I only forward due to other mentions... so YMMV and all the usual disclaimers... check the links and read to find out if one of the products listed below will rip or convert the files you have to something you need for editing
http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/ plus $5 Ship
http://www.deskshare.com/dmc.aspx Digital Media Converter
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html Multi-Converter <-- supposed to be very good
http://www.flaskmpeg.net/download.php Mpeg to AVI Converter
http://www.squared5.com/ MPEG Streamclip Converter
http://www.virtualdub.org/ Mpeg to AVI Converter
The best format for building DVDs from is the DV-AVI. You can find a list of free programs and settings creating the perfect DV-AVIs in this FAQ, from the library of FAQs to the right of this forum.
Thanks to both.
Ok, so DV-AVI is what I will edit with. That's settled. However I can't find anything that converts to that. Via your link I tried
MPEG Streamclip but it couldn't read the .mts files. It says it needs the MPEG2 files, but those are already installed. Quicktime (X or 7) is unable to read them either.
The MP4 files would open in Quicktime 7, alas it can be saved as an AVI file or DV-Stream, but not a DV-AVI. I tried the DV-Stream but PrE wouldn't preview the clip. MP4 also opens in Quicktime X but in Apple's infinite wisdom the only export options are 480p, 720p and various iOS devices.
The other links you listed are Windows only.
Assuming I am able to get these converted to DV-AVI, what would I use for the project settings?
Thanks again for your help!
No. With Macs your options for free programs is all but non-existent, unfortunately.
I'm not sure what to advise. Sorry.
Although it may be worth looking into Quicktime Pro, a steal at $29 from Apple. It can work with and convert dozens of codecs and file formats. You can also do some editing in it, dnd it should be able to convert almost any file it can read as standard def DV.
Also, a saved link I found for the gopro
GoPro http://forums.adobe.com/thread/974052 - more links inside
Good luck with finding software that will convert your 3 different codecs into one codec for editing
Actually the GoPro files were pretty straightforward. GoPro distributes CineForm Studio with their cameras, easy to get the files into a useable format.
It's the .mts files that are giving me pain. In Steve's link he mentioned at the top to take the .mts files, create a new project, place all the .mts files on the timeline and export. I tried this, with a whole new project as if I was making a movie with just .mts files. I reimported the video directly from the cam. The .mts files don't even preview. The thumbnails are in the Organize tab, but when I double click they expand but don't play. Same thing if I drag them to the timeline. Brought all the other files in, they don't work either. I had the same problem last year and talked to Adobe support. After an hour their suggestion was to run PrE in a Root user, that worked then, but not today.
I'm going to try Quicktime Pro per Steve's suggestion.
Thanks again for your help.
I thought I would reply back with the end result. It always bothers me when people don't report how they resolved an issue.
Unfortunately, this issue was consuming too much time. I was hunting around and trying all these shareware converters to no avail. On a lark I tried the trial version of Final Cut Pro X, after all I was trying everthing else. FCP X not only imported all the files seamlessly, but it edits them without having to convert them to a common format. The time saved will easily cover the $300 price tag.
I'll admit it, I was pushing the limitations of PrE 9 by using different file formats for the same multicam project. Probably should've started with FCP from the beginning.
Thanks again for your help!
Glad that FCPx is a better fit for you. Unfortunately, it has not been for very many FCP users, who have jumped ship to PrPro CS 5.5/6.
For true Multi-cam editing, PrPro is a much better program, than PrE, which lacks that direct function. Were I doing Multi-cam, I would find that one function worth the price differential (though I already have PrPro).