I'm in the process of building a new PC and just want to make sure I'm adequately supporting Speedgrade. The smart me money seems to be on the 3Gb GTX 580 card over the Quadro 4000/5000. Do I you have any sample configurations for working in realtime with Red media?
Thanks.
Hi,
Please note that SpeedGrade is entirely GPU accelerated. For best results a nVidia Quadro 4000 or 5000 or 6000 is recommended.
With the Dynamic Quality-feature in Speedgrade, you can achieve real time playback at 1/8 or 1/4 resolution out of the full 4K/5K Red with allmost all workstations, though. In order to achieve 1/2 resolution real time playback of 4K/5K a good CPU (Corei7 or Dual Xeon) or a Red Rocket board is required. What kind of workstation do you have ?
Dennis
I'm in the process of building this new system but I'd like to get it into a Radius EX chasis from Next Computing (http://www.nextcomputing.com/products/portable-workstations/radius-ex) so it is easy to bring on set. That chasis can only accept an ATX sized motherboard so I'm likely going with a single 8-core E5 Xeon, GPU and Red Rocket.
The CPU choice seems pretty straight forward since the comon render codec's seem to lean heavily on the CPU.
The GPU choice is up in the air though. The 6000 card is prohibitively priced. 5000 is within reach but it is still over twice the price of the 580 that many people seem to recommend as the strength of the Quadro's is supposedly in 3D and CAD applications. I'm running a GTX 480 and a Red Rocket on a 3 year old i7 960 machine and I get realtime performance of Red and C300 media in Premiere and ScratchLAB. Between that and threads like (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?77102-Quadro-or-GTX-for-ne w-system) it seems like a GTX might do the trick. Of course, I haven't heard from anyone at Adobe or with Speedgrade experience so I'm checking here to make sure I'm not crippling Speedgrade.
Tayedrummer wrote:
I'm in the process of building this new system but I'd like to get it into a Radius EX chasis from Next Computing (http://www.nextcomputing.com/products/portable-workstations/radius-ex) so it is easy to bring on set. That chasis can only accept an ATX sized motherboard so I'm likely going with a single 8-core E5 Xeon, GPU and Red Rocket.
The CPU choice seems pretty straight forward since the comon render codec's seem to lean heavily on the CPU.
The GPU choice is up in the air though. The 6000 card is prohibitively priced. 5000 is within reach but it is still over twice the price of the 580 that many people seem to recommend as the strength of the Quadro's is supposedly in 3D and CAD applications. I'm running a GTX 480 and a Red Rocket on a 3 year old i7 960 machine and I get realtime performance of Red and C300 media in Premiere and ScratchLAB. Between that and threads like (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?77102-Quadro-or-GTX-for-ne w-system) it seems like a GTX might do the trick. Of course, I haven't heard from anyone at Adobe or with Speedgrade experience so I'm checking here to make sure I'm not crippling Speedgrade.
SpeedGrade is designed for single CPU + single GPU workstations. You'll be totally ok using the single 8-core ES Xeon.
The best choice of GPU is definitely a Quadro 4000 / 5000 / 6000, but the Geforce should do the trick if you don't need to work with SDI gear at all. SDI output would require a Quadro SDI setup and is not available for the GeForce series.
As for differences in performance: if your main format is RED, and if you're already committed to using a rocket, the Quadro 5000 has been the most typical choice in the past. It leaves you with enough wiggle room for intense grading on high resolution material.
The best choice of GPU is definitely a Quadro
Why is that exactly? All the specs of the 5000 seem to be lesser than those of the GTX 580 - CUDA cores, memory bandwidth, clock speed, etc. So leaving out the SDI issue, what exactly is it about Quadros that makes them better on the processing side of things over a higher spec'd GeForce?
I mean typically, performance is directly related to the specifications of the hardware. So what am I missing that makes the 5000 perform better than a 580?
The Quadro is specifically optimized for OpenGL performance and SpeedGrade is heavily relying on OpenGL to do its magic. In addition, the Quadro drivers are specifically designed and tested to interact well with applications like ours.
As a general rule, it may take a bit of testing to get a good driver config with your Geforce.
Lin
Interesting. Thanks.
Follow up if I may.
So what kind of performance differences can we expect to see between a 5000 and a 580? Faster renders? More responsive? Better colors? Something else? (On a side note, I haven yet had any issues getting SpeedGrade to run using my 560Ti without any special config.)
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