I've read throug a couple long arguments but haven't seen one USEFUL bit of advice for this problem ... for my images in "old" Lr, I'd used the auto-black code in a preset, and then matched that with a couple other things, that made about 85% of my images within "usable" quality for tone controls. Just tweaking recovery and fill a bit for most of them.
I'm ... well ... bamboozled with Lr4. Yea, so much of the new stuff in say, brushes, is SO good to have.
But ... it's so far taking me a LOT longer to get images to a basic acceptable tonal range. Auto ... holy crap, that's awful ... if the mids are a bit dark, it dumps much of the photo DEEP into the shadows, if say, you've got nice yellow straw in open sun, it blows it to near pure white ... WAY of what I'd received before. So ... "auto" overall isn't useful for most of my images I've tried.
I"ve been told to "shift-double-click" the black slider ... which only sets it to a 'middle' setting on the scale, doesn't set a black point in any way shape or form I can see. I'm really stumped as to how to quickly treat a mass of images in one lump as I so loved to do with Old-Style Lr. All the stuff I've read seems to be to tell me that the new-style is image-dependent, so realistically, every image will need to have it's own setting tweaked for proper 'black' point etc.
Wow. That's not particularly ... fast. I'm thinking I'm still not seeing something?
rNeil Haugen wrote:
I've read throug a couple long arguments but haven't seen one USEFUL bit of advice for this problem ...
You probably won't find this useful either, but my advice:
* Forget auto-tone & auto-blacks, and learn to be proficient at manual adjustment.
The image-adaptive thing only makes PV2012 unsuitable for pre-editing the components of a panorama and such stuff - you can still sync settings across like images and get like results.
PS - I'm much faster at editing photos now with PV2012 than I was with PV2010, but it took me months to get there. YMMV...
I can do manual adjustments til the cows come home if I want to get another job and just play occasionally at photography. I rather like my business, unfortunately ... and want it to stay a business. So I need to do the part that *I* do to the images quickly and get to the OTHER 50 million things I need to do.
My old Lr 'flow' was to import my D3 images using my chosen default settings ... which (as I tend to hold my in-cam exposures decently tight) left most of my images needing only slight tweaks to be ready to move on in the process, and yes, most of those were applied to groups, sometimes auto-syncing, sometimes doing the work-one->manual sync method ... syncing groups is one of the big things I've always liked about Lr. Btw, never used the full version of 'auto-tone' except for some groups of family photos. Rare.
The auto-black crib or hack set into my default settings on import just set a pretty darn good black/shadow/contrast basis to the image, and a fairly consistent 'look' to start with.
Importing into Lr4, well, it's standard default setting moves my images one to the next more all-over-the-place than *old* Lr was for me pre-personal default. Kinda startled me. And ... two images, shot within moments, of the same scene ... with only a slight difference in light ... can import into Lr4 with a rather different look to them, sometimes a very major difference. And as of yet, I haven't figured out exactly what triggers this behavior, or how to control/live with it. The basic capabilities of Lr4 are quite truly a major step forward ... but this difference has completely broken my workflow down into all work and no flow. The changes in Lr4's black-point setting, shadows, and contrast one image to the next are ... stunning.
Gotta get this figured out and right soon ... this isn't for play-time.