John,

For the previous "update," I was involved in the beta. Maybe my being in the UK for a couple of weeks negated my contributions to this update. Sorry that I missed it, as I would have had volumes of contributions, and pleased to either make changes, or to not do some things.

I have lived through many changes to the Adobe forums, going back to the NNTP days, and this might be the worst, that I have experienced.

As things seem to be changing by the hour, after the ~ 2 hour shutdown, I will reserve my final comments, but each hour seems to make thing worse.

After a decade (actually longer) of work in the Adobe forums, this is a bad move, at least IMHO.

I wish you luck, and do appreciate what you are trying to do, but think that both of your hands might be tied behind your back.

Hun

In order to be helpful and not just complain, there's three specific things I don't like about the new skin.

First, there's no 'box' around the original post.   It just hangs out there with the rest of the background.  I don't like that.  Every post should have some sort of 'box' within which it appears.

Second, the original post used to be in blue, very distinguishable from the replies.  Subsequent posts from that OP were also in blue, again to distinguish it.  Others' posts appeared with a white background, and my own appeared with a gray background.  Now, everyone's post has the same plain grey background.  That makes it more difficult to go back and look over what I've previously written, and more difficult to cull out posts from the OP in a thread.  Changes should make things better, not worse.  This current scheme is worse.

Third, most folks are right handed, and will move the mouse cursor off to the right when reading a thread.  The Reply and other buttons should go back to being right justified, not left.

I'd like to add a fourth and fifth issue to my list above.

Fourth, there are no post numbers any more.  So we can no longer say, "Did you see the link in post 7?", or "Please answer the questions asked in post 2".

Fifth, the individual questions are spaced farther apart on the page, meaning you get fewer questions on the same sized page.  How's that better?

And we users aren't the only ones who don't like this mess.  This was posted by an Adobe employee. "Please, please, please tell the forum team on the forum that they read. It doesn't help to yell at us (the people who make the video software and who agree with you on this issue)."

I will share our detailed plans and schedule with all of you as soon as I can.

That would be nice.  We lost some good folks when Adobe went to the Jive forums.  I'd hate to see a repeat of that.

Bill Hunt wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I agree completely, though others will never know that I am replying to you.

 

Hunt

I agree, I like to see who i am replying to.

Otherwise people are going to quote all the time. That makes it clutter all up.

I have not complained over the past few years regarding the changes made to the forums - most of what was done didn't really change my experience so I adapted easily. The changes that have been recently introduced are simply terrible as far as visuals/layout go, to the point of being unreadable... especially when you have a posting title that is squished into a ~100 pixels of space...

And the loss of numerous useful features (information-related features) only helps to make whatever is being done seem more and more amateurish.

That looks like the Discussion page for Action Script 3, but I'm not seeing that hapening for me unless I really compress my browser window down to a very narrow width...

Normal width on a 1280x1024 monitor:

Narrowed window:

What happens when you click on the red Adobe logo in the upper left corner of the page?

Ned Murphy wrote:

 

I see this kind of display on older computers with low screen resolution.  The same forum looks good on higher screen resolution.

The point of the forum designers probably is: folks with old hardware shouldn't be using these forums.

Pat Willener wrote: 

"I see this kind of display on older computers with low screen resolution.  The same forum looks good on higher screen resolution.

The point of the forum designers probably is: folks with old hardware shouldn't be using these forums."

Actually I have new hardware, including a widescreen monitor.  But I do not choose to display everything fullscreen... never had to prior to now and don't plan to change my browsing preferences for one web site.  I also don't intend to get into the bickering that folks in this forum are infamous for--it's amusing to watch, but not worth involving oneself in. 

Yes. Known issue and I'm told it is already fixed for the next forum update.