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[UI BUG] Set Copy As Master -> still referred as "Copy"

May 7, 2012 7:30 AM

Tags: #lightroom4 #virtual_copy #set_copy_as_master

I just found a small UI glitch.

 

I selected the Set Copy As Master command to promote a virtual copy.

http://f.cl.ly/items/1C2S3r342G090p2c472j/Screenshot%20%202012-05-07%20at%2016.05.20.png

 

As you can see, the page curls is gone, but the file name is still "Copy 2".

 

http://f.cl.ly/items/0G0V2n381c0y293k0n0l/Screenshot%20%202012-05-07%20at%2016.05.58.png

 

Can you reproduce this? Is it by design?

599 Views   6 Replies   Latest reply: PaoloAvezzano, May 8, 2012 5:04 AM
 
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  • jim01403
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    1. jim01403,
    May 7, 2012 8:21 AM   in reply to PaoloAvezzano
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    I doubt it's by design, but I can reproduce.

     
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  • Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață
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    2. Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață,
    May 8, 2012 3:09 AM   in reply to PaoloAvezzano
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    I'm not sure it's a bug and it's certainly not an UI bug.

     

    Each image in the catalog, be it a master or a copy, has a database field

    (adobe_images.copyName) that stores the copy name. Note that you can also

    use it for masters. It is associated with a certain image, not with the

    fact that a imge is a copy or a master.

     

    Imagine a situation where you have a master and a copy converted

    black-and-white with the copy name "BW" or an alternative crop with the

    copy name "Croppped". Now, if you swap the master with copy, should the

    master get a "BW" or "Cropped" copy name? I guess not.

     
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  • jim01403
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    May 8, 2012 3:25 AM   in reply to Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață
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    Thanks, that makes sense.

     
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  • PaoloAvezzano
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    4. PaoloAvezzano,
    May 8, 2012 3:29 AM   in reply to Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață
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    The virtual copy has no specific name other than "Copy x".

    So the master has the real name and the copies have theoretically the same.

    Beside the fact I don't think that embedding the treatment in the file name is a good practice (hey, that's just me), this means that the "Set Copy As Master" is not a lot useful. It would be better to copy all the settings from the virtual copy to the master itself.

     

    Again, it's debateble. Maybe it's not a bug, but I find it to be a little obscure to swap with the master while retaining the "Copy" Lightroom name.

     
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  • Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață
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    5. Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață,
    May 8, 2012 4:01 AM   in reply to PaoloAvezzano
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    The virtual copy has no specific name other than "Copy x".

    No, because you did't set it. That's an automatically generated name, but you're free to change it to whatever you want.

     

    So the master has the real name and the copies have theoretically the same.

    NOt sure what you mean. I assume you do understand that the CopyName and File Name are two different attributes. A Copy always shares the same filename with the master, but the the copynames may be arbitrary for both. By default, Lr4 displays the filename for the master and the copyname for the VC. You can change that in View Option (Ctrl+J).

     

    this means that the "Set Copy As Master" is not a lot useful.

    Agree. There's no point in doing that (besides the curled triange display). Internally, masters and copie are treated exactly the same.

     
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  • PaoloAvezzano
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    6. PaoloAvezzano,
    May 8, 2012 5:04 AM   in reply to Dorin Nicolaescu-Musteață
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    You're right Dorin, you can change the Copy name but obviously not the file name, as behind the scenes there's only one image file.

    Maybe we should wait for someone to explain the ratio behind this command except for quickly exchange settings while leaving the names intact.

     
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