We have a problem targeting the Nexus 7 and other android devices for an e-magazine. We need a pinch and zoom or simply zoom feature that is supported by the android device.
However, publishing through the folio builder and then viewing in DPS on the Android device such as a Nexus 7 does not permit zooming. Does Adobe offer a work around for this? Is it available in CS6 as we use CS5.5? We are using Magzter and they produce an app from our PDFs that permit zooming. Can Adobe offer the same thing? Is this a problem due to strict renditions? Can I turn this off in CS5.5 or is it already off by default?
We are having a problem targeting Nexus7 and other Android devices. We need to publish an e-magazine which allows pinch and zoom or another zoom function. Most Android smart phones including the Nexus 7 permit pinch and zoom but any folios we produce using Adobe Folio Builder and then are viewed on the Adobe Content Viewer through DPS do not allow zooming. Is this due to strict renditions being on when published? Are strict renditions off as a default? We are using CS5.5, would switching to CS6 be the only solution? Does Adobe offer a work around? Using a Pan and Zoom overlay in Indesign CS5.5 seems to do the trick but we really need a more PDF style of zooming. We have used Magzter to publish the App. They offer a pinch and zoom application from the PDFs that we send to them. Can Adobe offer the same sort of solution?
It clearly says above "Create a single folio size (such as 1024x768) for all devices. Layouts are scaled or letterboxed as needed."
so... why then If I publish a 1024x768
iPad - works
iPhone - FAIL shows nothing
iPod - FAIL shows nothing
Android tablet - works
Kindle Fire - works
Nook - works
2- If I Create a folio rendition (480x320) and Create documents for multiple devices (using alternate layouts for every single page that are 480x320)
iPad - works shows 1024x768
iPhone - works shows 320x240
iPod - works shows 320x240
Android tablet - FAIL shows 320x240
Kindle Fire - FAIL shows 320x240
Nook - FAIL shows 320x240
3- If I Create YES, YET ANOTHER a folio rendition (600x1024) and Create documents for multiple devices (using alternate layouts for every single page that are 600x1024)
The publishing suite throws an ERROR and says "One of your articles has a different resolution size than the folio."
--> THATS BS, the article has 3 sizes, this problem did not occure with the 320x480, why is it a problem with (600x1024)?
A: 1024x768 Vertical
B: 480x320 Vertical
C: 1024x600 Vertical
4- If I Create YES, YET ANOTHER a folio rendition (800x1280) and Create documents for multiple devices (using alternate layouts for every single page that are 800x1280)
The publishing suite throws an ERROR and says "One of your articles has a different resolution size than the folio."
--> THATS BS, the article has now 4 sizes, this problem did not occur with the 480x320, why is it a problem with (1280x800)?
A: 1024x768 Vertical
B: 480x320 Vertical
C: 1024x600 Vertical
D: 1280x800 Vertical
What gives?
1 - The iPad displays only folios with a 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPhone displays only folios with a 3:2 aspect ratio (until the new 1136x960 size is supported). However, Android devices display any valid folio size, scaling down and letterboxing as needed. If you publish a 1024x768 (4:3) folio, it shows up on all devices except the iPhone.
2 - It sounds like the Android devices are choosing a larger rendition.
3 - We need more information about how you're creating the articles.
4 - Same.
You might want to look at this article:
http://blogs.adobe.com/indesigndocs/2012/10/creating-dps-folios-for-an droid-devices.html
right, and the article you list is awesome...
however, the problem is simply this:
I make a 1024x768 and the idea is to push it to all tablets...
then I make a 480x320 alternate layout and rendition with the expectation that it will only show on the iPod and iPhone and guess what happens?
Expectation:
---------------------------------------------EDITION
------ rendition 1 - alt alyout A-----------
1024x768 -> iPad
1024x768 -> Android
1024x768 -> Kindle Fire
1024x768 -> Nook
------ rendition 2 - alt alyout B-----------
480x320 -> iPhone and iPod touch
(and in theory, this would show on other phones in the future)
---------------------------------------------EDITION
Actual Result:
---------------------------------------------EDITION
------ rendition 1 - alt alyout A-----------
1024x768 -> iPad
------ rendition 2 - alt alyout B-----------
480x320 -> Android
480x320 -> Kindle Fire
480x320 -> Nook
480x320 -> iPhone and iPod touch
(arrrrg!)
---------------------------------------------EDITION
see what I mean?
now, if I change the Androids to strict rendition, they dont show the 1024x768, and I end up going down the rabbit hole of 5 renditions and 5 alternate layouts...
I have been up for days... and finally found a solution (make a seperate login, copy items over to it, so there are now two 1024x768's one for iOs and one for Androids), but its not at all efficiant and exactly what I was trying to avoid.
I see. I think I now know what I must do...
I should assume that the 480x320 showing up on the Androids (even if there is a 1024x768 available) will always happen unless I create a new 1024x768 folio with a seperate user.
PS: thank you for running an awesome community here and taking care of us! It really is nice to get a responce from someone who knows whats up with this gig...
you rock.
RE: 1 - The iPad displays only folios with a 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPhone displays only folios with a 3:2 aspect ratio (until the new 1136x960 size is supported). However, Android devices display any valid folio size, scaling down and letterboxing as needed. If you publish a 1024x768 (4:3) folio, it shows up on all devices except the iPhone.
--> YES, this is true... that is... until I publish anything with a 3:2, and then the Android scaling down and letterboxing does something nasty indeed... it shows the 320 alternate and ignores the 768...
RE: 2 - It sounds like the Android devices are choosing a larger rendition.
they are choosing the smaller one, the 320, they should be choosing the 768... but I think this boils down the the "3:2" rule, since the 320 is 3:2 for the iPod, they decide "oh. this 320 is a better fit than the 768 because of its aspect ratio, I Android think I will show this to the human"
-> and then its really really small on the screen and I am left scratching my head talking to a device as if it can hear me...
RE: 3 - We need more information about how you're creating the articles.
Basically, I watched this and followed it step by step: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/visual-design-cs6/working-with-alternate-lay outs/?go=13244
I am simply making a new folio that is 1024x768 called Issue X (rendition 1)
---
and then in inDesign making a 1024x768 = A_v
-> then clicking on "create alternate layout" and making a 480x320(B_v) FROM A_v
-> then clicking on "create alternate layout" again and making a 1024x600(C_v) FROM A_v
---
then makeing a new folio that is 480x320 called Issue X (rendition 2) + adding covers
then makeing a new folio that is 1024x600 called Issue X (rendition 3) + adding covers
--> and in the DPS online builder tool copying over all items from the first 1024x768 "issue X" one at a time to (rendition 2) and then (rendition 3) respectivly
---
The 480x320 Issue X rendition then works on the iPod and iPhone, and actually shows me the 480x320
however, 1024x600 (rendition 3) throws an error and says "One of your articles has a different resolution size than the folio." which I assume is from the 1024x768 inside the 'alternate layout'... bringing us back to the 320 VS 768 "paradox" which I was in theory trying to override with the 1024x600 (rendition 3)
Hi guys,
I'd like to understand it all...
I made 2 renditions from an iPad layout 1024x768.
I made 1 for iphone 480x320, another for Android 1280x800.
The iphone fits perfect. The Android not 100% (but I suppose it might be due to a borderline issue I have to read in Android Folio guide...).
Anyway, my question is (for what zagarskas has described), no matter if I have it ok on Content Viewer Device, when I publish it I may have problems with the right formats???
yes indeed, at least for me...
this is not only happening with the Content viewer app I log into, but at one point I decided that there perhaps is an error in it and decided to start doing this with the live apps and have burned through over 100+ downloads as I can see my limit has been reduced in the live apps.
Please, feel free to try your 480x320 + 1024x768 + 1280x800 alternate layouts with 3 rendiditon folios and let me know if it works! Now if you have all 3 and can make them work on 3 devices, thats what I was trying to do in #3 above. However, if you want to stick with only 2 renditions and alternates to show the 1024x768 on the Androids + the iPad, with a 320x480 alternate on iPhones and iPods then you may end up with a suprise. indeed, let me know how this turns out for you. Please do not let this post hold you back, as a developer I believe that 99% of software issues are related to human error, and I err as often as I experiment...
Awesome.
Please note the following:
My problem only occurs when I use 1 login to create 1 core folio with 3 renditions inside it spread across a total of 3 alternate layouts.
I have solved the issue with help from Bob, reading offical Adobe stuff online (and not believeing some of it too), and experimenting.
As of now, the best way I have found go's like this:
1- make a new folio (folioA) using dps.ios@mysite.com
-> add articles with 1024x768. upload em all.
give permission to edit this item to dps.android@mysite.com
...then...
2- make a new folio (folioB) with exact same name using dps.android@mysite.com
-> go to the digitalpublishing.acrobat.com login, select the folio that dps.ios made, and copy the articles over one at a time to (folioB), check the box that says "protected" and "locked"
-> log back out and log back in as dps.ios
add in + 480x320 alternate layouts to (folioA) or you will find that (folio B) will show the 320 to android users.
log out and log back in as dps.ios@mysite.com
publish Folio A
log out and log back in as dps.android@mysite.com
publish Folio B
result:
---------------------------------------------EDITION
------ rendition 1 - Folio A - alt alyout V_ios_big - made by dps.ios@mysite.com-----------
1024x768 -> iPad
------ rendition 1 - Folio A - alt alyout V_ios_small - made by dps.ios@mysite.com---------
480x320 -> iPhone and iPod touch
------ rendition 2 - Folio B - alt alyout V_ios_big - made by dps.android@mysite.com------
1024x768 -> Android
1024x768 -> Kindle Fire
1024x768 -> Nook
---------------------------------------------EDITION
App notes:
the iOs app is set to ipod and ipad. it only accpet folios from dps.ios@mysite.com
the android apk 1, apk 2, and apk 3 only accpet folios from dps.android@mysite.com
Rendition
Ipad 1 e 2 = 1024x768
Ipad 3 = 2048x1536
Iphone 3GS = 480x320
Iphone 4 e 4S = 960x640
Iphone 5 = 1136x640
Ipod Touch = 960x640
Ipad Mini = 1024x768
Galaxy 7" = 1024x600
Galaxy 10" = 1232x752
Nexus = 1205x725
Kindle Fire SD = 1024x600
Kindle Fire HD = 1280x800
Xoom = 1232x752
PlayBook = 1024x600
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