Here's the thing... I have a purchased copy of LR3... I am currently using the trial of LR4.  I'm not going to spend money on the LR4 upgrade if I'm already spending money on the cloud, especially if I know I'll get LR4 eventually.  Getting a refund does not help at all... it's a gamble.. maybe it will come out in 30 days maybe not.   Adobe needs to either allow cloud customers to continue to run on the LR4 trial until the software is available in the cloud or they need to profide a definitive date as to when they will release it to the cloud. 

I am really impressed with the new LR4 and will be sad if I have to go back to LR3 for an extended period of time. 

I agree with the other posters.  It seems ridiculous that LR4 would be a paid app for Creative Cloud subscribers, seeing as it's coming to the cloud later this year.  I can understand that 'cloud-enabled' features may require a future update, but at least allow users to download/install/run the standalone app.

Charging CC subscribers during the gap will only serve to build resentment and frustration among users.

I have the same problem.

Mr Burgess, how about clear answers?

Like we send you a temporary key or adobe extends the refund policy in this case.

Everything else is a bit of a waste of time...

@ Trevor

Actualy Adobe is very biblicaly inspired:

They send Evangelists through the world to tell us that they can save our creative work.

And they act like the master who pays the same amount to his worker regardless the fact they began to work early in the morning or only a few minutes bevor paytime.

Meant: I bought my first pagemaker in 1992, i let you guess how many updates I boot to be granted the promo. By the why in Europe it's $30 but $45.

And I guess that if that monney had been spent for programmers and designers instead of lawyers and managers the products would just be incredibily good.

@ All

The point is not if lightroom shall or shouldn't be available in the cloud, it wasn't included in the suites until now.

The point is that if I have to buy it now, and it is added to the cloud in 6 months I feel definitely like what is so well expressed by following quotation of ZDNet contribution:

This is immoral behaviour. It is cynical behaviour. It is the behaviour of a company that knows it has an effective monopoly and isn't afraid to use dangerous flaws in its own products to extort yet more cash from its captive audience.  ZDNet

In this case it isn't about flaws and bugs but still the same point.

Perhaps it's not immoral in this case (the quotation talks about dangerous flaws). It is still cynical and perhaps lake of internal communication also. It is still behaviour that you only can use if the audience is captive. And that is a real challenge for the IT world. Because a good software is written for long times and doesn't break like plates or cars. One among a lot of reason that monopoles are so easily built in the IT business.

And there be plenty of ways to solve the problem. There were some beta version that worked with time-limited licence key. Why not send them to cloud subscribers until LR is cloud ready?

Jacob, you actually have 50 days worth of time there. Let your trial run out (20 days) then if you feel the need, purchase it (another 30 days).

I'm not telling you to buy anything. I was just pointing out that Jacob actually has a total of 50 days if you add up his remaining trial time and the 30 day return policy.

Would I buy on the hope that Lr will be added to CC in 30 days? I dunno. I'd probably just continue to use whatever it was I was using PRIOR to subscribing the CC. It's not like Lr3 or whatever you were using before you downloaded Lr4 as a trial blows up when Lr4 is released. I know it's really really powerful to want the new hotness, but you can either take the risk of buying with the intention of returning or just cool your jets and wait for Adobe to add it to CC for you.

Lr is not part of Creative Cloud right now. I've already outlined why Adobe might not want to make a firm committment to anyone on when it will be added (and that most certainly IS a software development AND marketing concern). I've also outlined why it might not be available day one (Lr has little in common with the rest of the Creative Suite in two major areas--licensing and installation--that DIRECTLY impact Creative Cloud).

I guarantee that if Adobe came in here tomorrow, said "it will be available in CC on June 1" and then it slipped to June 15 (because of a software development issue or whatever) you'd be all over their butts about slipping their date.

If giving Adobe (and Jeff Veen, a guy I've spoken with personally on a handful of occasions and consider a completely straight shooter) the benefit of the doubt means I'm an apologist, I guess I'm guilty as charged. On the other hand, maybe I just don't see the point of caterwauling over this. It's not like Adobe's tricking you into subscribing to CC knowing Lr isn't available yet... it's clearly on the CC web page that Lightroom is "Coming Soon".

Oh I agree. Lightroom 4 is superior to the newest version of Aperture in most every way I can think of. The books interface needs some work, but Apple's really kind of dumbed down Aperture.

Why? thanks of course and well done (technicaly).

But I still think that there would have been means to avoid this waste of space and time. A time limited Serial number (has it has been done) for example.

But if it is more than a couple of weeks the whole thing will become realy relevant for me in about 20 days, when my trial version will be outdated.

Same here... I called Customer service and they told me that if I buy the full version of LR4, they won't refund it once it's passed 30 days. What should I do?

If I understand this correctly - If you use the RC2 version available from Adobe Labs, which essentially is a beta version, this is good thru June 30 I beliieve. A trial copy of the 'real version' then gives another 30 days, this takes us to the end of July, which by then hopefully a proper version of LR4.1 may be out.

I know if you already have a trial on your computer you would not have the extra 30 days but the end of June is still not bad technically for nothing. by which time again 4.1 may have been released. There is certainly no way they would want to put LR4 on the cloud as it stands with all the problems it would appear to be giving people, or would we want to put on ourselves!

The cloud version is no different than the standalone version, it is installed on the computer as any normal program. It does not run from the cloud.

@everyone. I installed LR4.1 today and it started my trial over! Woohoo for 30 more days. Hopefully, Adobe will add it to the cloud by then.

My trial for Lightroom 4 is now over... Any words about the release LR for Creative Cloud?... LR is a very important product for me.

Adobe should give us at least +30 day licence till the creative cloud version is ready...

I have Windows XP .. Can I have Lr3 instead ? :-)