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Still only 32 Undo Levels?!  Are You Kidding Me?!

May 14, 2012 10:27 PM

The title says it all.

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  • shooternz
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    1. shooternz,
    May 14, 2012 10:35 PM   in reply to Jim Simon
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    As a suitably trained expert with a proper education who has read the manual from cover to cover...I thought you would be able to get it right easily within 32 screw ups Jim.!

     

    You could try the History levels as well.

     

     

     
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  • Jim Simon
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    2. Jim Simon,
    May 14, 2012 10:43 PM   in reply to shooternz
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    The problem comes when I don't know I've screwed up and I don't find it until I'm past the 32 levels of History.

     

    Yesterday I somehow overwrote a whole section of multicam cutting.  Redoing that cut was far more work than redoing what I'd have lost by moving back far enough in History (if the program would have let me move back far enough).

     

    32 Undos just doesn't cut it.  I can't believe this remains unchanged for CS6.

     
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  • shooternz
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    3. shooternz,
    May 14, 2012 10:47 PM   in reply to Jim Simon
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    Ahhh...at that point we go to incrementally saved manual backups.

     
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  • Wil Renczes
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    4. Wil Renczes,
    May 14, 2012 10:56 PM   in reply to shooternz
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    Not high enough on the request totem pole for this go around, but definitely on the feature request list.  On my radar, at any rate, as we recently had a broadcaster we're working with mention the same issue.

     

    Cheers

     
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  • Jim Simon
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    5. Jim Simon,
    May 14, 2012 11:08 PM   in reply to Wil Renczes
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    Nice to know.  Thanks, Wil.

     

    I'd like to ask everyone reading to submit a Feature Request on this to push it up in the rankings.  Even if you don't need more than 32 yourself, having more than 32 won't hurt you, but it sure will help others.

     

    https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

     
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  • shooternz
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    6. shooternz,
    May 14, 2012 11:16 PM   in reply to Jim Simon
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    Amateurs eh ... 

     
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  • leslie wand
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    7. leslie wand,
    May 15, 2012 12:02 AM   in reply to shooternz
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    ah, maybe a couple of weeks with vegas 11 is needed - you learn to incrementally save every few minutes, otherwise you simply go mental....

     
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  • Jon-M-Spear
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    8. Jon-M-Spear,
    May 15, 2012 12:22 AM   in reply to leslie wand
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    I can't agree more about incremental saving.  I too have learned the hard way.

     

    I date the filename, ending with a numerical stamp.  Throughout the day, at key edit moments, I increment the stamp, thus...

     

    GWQ-150512-6

     

    At the start of the next day, before any edits are committed, I change the date and reset the stamp, thus...

     

    GWQ-160512-1

     

    (British date format, guys!)

     

    I do need to resort to it quite often!

     
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  • Christian Jolly
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    9. Christian Jolly,
    May 15, 2012 4:51 AM   in reply to Jim Simon
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    More than 32 undos...? What is this, iMovie Pro? Ah, shooternz already beat me to the "pro" dig, so I'll just pass.

     

    I actually went and checked it out myself, was a bit surprised also. But it didn't even make it onto my "PPro CS6 Pros/Cons" list that I'm assembling, so that tells you the priority for me.

     

    I probably will put in a feature request, because I know of at least 1 time in the last year I needed more (although I don't know if I needed 45 or 60 or 100). It was the dad-gum TITLER that did it to me, it adds a history point for every breath taken while editing a title, eats up the history pretty quickly.

     
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  • Jay Gladwell
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    10. Jay Gladwell,
    May 15, 2012 5:28 AM   in reply to leslie wand
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    Leslie's right. I still do the incremental saves (after a year of coming from Vegas). But it's a good idea, period. Anything can happen, and more often than not, the only way to CYB is with incremental saves.

     
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  • Jim Simon
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    11. Jim Simon,
    May 15, 2012 9:33 AM   in reply to Christian Jolly
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    it adds a history point for every breath taken while editing a title, eats up the history pretty quickly.

     

    That's exactly how I lost my multicam edits the other day.  I'd much rather redo the titles than redo the multicam cut, if only I could have gone back far enough to undo the mistake.

     

    Same thing happens with a Nudge.  Every frame is another Undo level.

     

    It's cases like that where even incremental saving might not save your bacon.  Unless you want to end up with several dozen project versions per day, which could add up to several hundred or even into the thousands over the life of any given project.  And I definitely do NOT want that.

     

    No...proper Undo levels is the solution here.  99 at a minimum.  And with today's high memory rigs, I can even see allowing the user to set as many as 999.

     
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