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Random Glitches When Rendering Movie

May 19, 2012 9:21 AM

Two current jobs I'm working on are displaying strange glitches during the first seconds of the render. These appear for one frame at either the top or bottom of the frame. A render may contain just one glitch or sometimes three or four. The rest of the render seems to be fine. The glitch can appear as a green line or a couple of lines of snow. I have seen a frame slip on one particulalry bad occassion.

 

I re-render and sometimes I get away with it, but other times the glitches appear at other random frames, but always near the begining.

 

I wondered if this might be a mains spike or something, but why only at the begining (sometimes I leave the studio and switch the light out once a render is underway. That might have provided a spike at the begining of a render. I stopped switching the light out but no difference). I've not had this kind of problem before. Getting a complete render without a glitch has become a bit of a nervous lottery.

 

I'm adding three shots. The first are my computer specs. The next two are examples of the kind glitch problems I'm getting.

 

Any thoughts?

Mark.

Computer Info.jpgglitch example 1.jpgglitch example 2.jpg

 
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    May 15, 2012 10:28 AM   in reply to Screenarena

    Looks like encoding errors in MPEG footage. Without knowing your settings this is impossible to diagnose. often this happens with VBR encoding, when the analysis is not "stable" in teh first few frames and data rates are less balanced than at later points, where more statistical data is available.

     

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    May 17, 2012 8:40 AM   in reply to Screenarena

    You ahve not mentioned what the source video files are. If they're compressed or encoded at all, try unpacking them to a full frame codec before trying to build your comp.

    Since the effec is random, not repeatable to the frame and pixel, it's either your media or your drive connection from where the media is stored. I'm guessing it's a bad media file.

     
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    May 18, 2012 4:45 AM   in reply to Screenarena

    HDV is compressed and MXF is just a container format. That doesn't mean nothing. Unless you can convert the files to QT animatioon or another CoDec, there is no way to surefire verify. Yeah, I'm sure it's annoying, but AE simply works differently and you may need to help it along...

     

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    May 18, 2012 7:44 AM   in reply to Screenarena

    Re-reading the thread, we've been informed the problem clip is compressed and requires unencoding before it can be rendered.That they are original camera footage is irrelevant. That this has never happened before is also irrelevant. Random events are not random at all, they have identifiable causes.  You've eliminated the drive as a likely cause but not the media itself. That's always my first stop. You can easily debug this by turniong off the layer and running a test render. No glitch? Convert the problem clip into a frame-based codec and replace the footage in the comp. If the results are still glitchy, all we have done is eliminated the first, probable, obvious and most likely cause. Then we will suggest you go after another.

     
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    May 18, 2012 9:01 AM   in reply to Screenarena

    I could draw from my tarot deck and arrive at the same conclusion and it would be equally misled.

    There are no random events with digital rendering. There are no events that occur within AE that cannot manifest in other applications or in events at the OS level. Computers do not work that way. Corrupt uncompressed files create glitches at exactly the same place every time. Corrupt compressed files cause what appear to be random glitches but the cause — or linked causes — is absolutely identifiable, even if it is not easily locatable. Corrupt codec software is always corrupt and every file using that same codec will present similar glitches.

     

    One debugs unusual and unexpected events in After Effects in a logical and binary approach. To do anything else produces results easily misinterpreted by wishful thinking instead of the yes/no branching. If this event occurs in only these two projects, there is something wrong with the projects. Move the footage to another project. Does the glitch follow? It's the media. Does the glitch go away? It's one of the filters applied to the footage item. End of branching.

     

    We've told you what we know and explained why your conclusion is probably incorrect.

     
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    May 18, 2012 3:42 PM   in reply to Screenarena

    Umm, sorry about that.

     
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    May 18, 2012 4:04 PM   in reply to bogiesan

    I have experienced some glitches recently in AE that were alleviated when I turned off multiprocessing.

     
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    Sep 13, 2012 1:13 AM   in reply to Screenarena

    I'm using AE CS6 and I have the exact same problem here. I'm experiencing random glitches here.

    I'm exporting in QuickTime format (Animation compression) with or without alpha and all the footage in the composition is generated by AE, no videos or pictures.

    An example.

    f###ing glitch.jpg

     

    I've tried everything. I can export the same composition 3 times and one has no glitches and two have them in diferent frames,

    The problem occurs in my two computers,

     
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