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Upgrade to PSE 10- Importing catalogue/tags from PSE4

May 17, 2012 3:51 AM

I want to upgrade from Photoshop Elements 4 to Elements 10. Will Photoshop Elements 10 automatically import my photo catalogue from Elements 4 including all the tags? If not can this be done manually?

 
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    May 17, 2012 4:01 AM   in reply to rockcat1

    It should do this automatically.

     

    If not, File->Catalog->Convert

     
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    Sep 21, 2012 7:14 AM   in reply to rockcat1

    I have a slight variation to this, my Elements 4 was on an XP PC which has failed totally. I have a replacement Win 7 PC on which Elements 4 appears not to want to load. Having sought "chat support" advice I was told I could restore my Elements 4 backup into Elements 10. Having purchased an Elements 10 Upgrade I checked with chat support again to confirm the process and was then told it wasn't possible to convert Elements 4 directly to Elements 10 without going via Elements 6 ?!

    As I have a full Elements 4 backup on an external hard drive and have an XP laptop I guess I could recover my Elements 4 backup to the XP laptop and export this to the hard drive IF Elements 10 will actually convert this as the previous post implies (contrary to tech chat advise).

    Alternativelly is there any way I can hold of a "trial" version of ELements 6 to perform the intermediate conversion ?

     
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    Sep 21, 2012 7:53 AM   in reply to canarytops

    I think you should be able to restore a PSE4 catalog directly from PSE10, as indicated in that technical paper:

    http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/common-catalog-issues-upg rade-elements.html

     

    I have no longer PSE4 installed, but I restored successfully PSE5 and PSE6 catalogs int PSE10 on a Win7 PC.

    Maybe there is another problem, but I really doubt that converting through PSE6 is a solution.

     
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    Sep 21, 2012 7:55 AM   in reply to canarytops

    I don't think you need PSE6.

     

    I think you need to put the backup of your PSE4 catalog (which includes the photos) onto a drive that your Win 7 PC can access. Launch PSE10. Then, File->Restore Catalog and then point PSE to your PSE4 catalog backup.

     
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    Sep 21, 2012 8:31 AM   in reply to dj_paige

    Thanks guys, I pre-empted any replies by getting the restore to my laptop under way so will let that finish (in a couple of hours at current rate !) and try your suggestions.

     
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    Sep 22, 2012 11:05 AM   in reply to canarytops

    Sorry for delay, got bogged down trying to get the laptop restore to work which was a waste of time because it's hard disc was too small !

     

    As suggested by dj the restore from my PSE4 backup appeared to work and on completion it went into an automatic conversion and also said it had converted successfully. However it gave the message :-

    "The catalog named My Catalog.psa has been converted for use with this version of Elements Organizer and the original catalog has been renamed to "d:\xxxxx\My Pictures\My Catalog.psa 1"

     

    On closing this message window I get thumbnails created for a catalog shown as My Catalog 1, which the above message implies is is the unconverted catalog ?

    If I open My Catalog it says "No items have been imported to this catalog" !?

    So is something wrong or is he conversion message misleading ?

     

    I have an additional problem in that the drive letter on my new PC is different to the original was single drive, new has 2 drives). So for the restore I specified "New Location", pointed at the My Pictures folder under which I wanted the photos. I also requested "Preserve original file structure". This seems to result in the full path from the original PC including "Documents and Settings\User\My Pictures\...." etc beneath the My Pictures which is very cumbersome ! I did try without the "Preserve original ..." but while this didn't create the unwanted additional folder levels it also removed the required folder structure within My Pictures (not surprising really I suppose !).

     

    Is there a "easy" way of moving the folder structure around or would it have to be done for each tagged level ?

     

    Think we're making progress though !

     
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    Sep 22, 2012 12:04 PM   in reply to canarytops

    If a catalog works in PSE10, and shows you the thumbnails and tags and everything, then it is the converted catalog!

    I have an additional problem in that the drive letter on my new PC is different to the original was single drive, new has 2 drives). So for the restore I specified "New Location", pointed at the My Pictures folder under which I wanted the photos. I also requested "Preserve original file structure". This seems to result in the full path from the original PC including "Documents and Settings\User\My Pictures\...." etc beneath the My Pictures which is very cumbersome ! I did try without the "Preserve original ..." but while this didn't create the unwanted additional folder levels it also removed the required folder structure within My Pictures (not surprising really I suppose !).

    Please state clearly the desired result so we can figure out how to get you there.

     
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    Sep 22, 2012 11:39 PM   in reply to dj_paige

    Thanks dj, I have :-

    D:\Trevor\My Pictures\Documents and Settings\Trevor\My Documents\My Pictures\required photo folders\sub-folders

     

    I want :-

    D:\Trevor\My Pictures\required photo folders\sub-folders

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 5:52 AM   in reply to canarytops

    In PSE10, you would go to Folder Location View, and select the folder D:\Trevor\My Pictures\Documents and Settings\Trevor\My Documents\My Pictures and then drag to to d:\trevor

     

    WARNING: There is a bug that could affect this process, which affects some users and not others. After such a move, the photos appear to be in the wrong folder in PSE, even though in your operating system the photos are in the proper folder, so you may not want to do this. Of course, if you still have your PSE4 backup, you can always get back to where you are now.

     

    Alternatives:

    1. take your PSE4 backup files, and restore the catalog (again) to the desired location
    2. use tags, captions and notes to organize, and not folders, in which case your folder structure is irrelevant
     
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    Sep 24, 2012 2:41 AM   in reply to dj_paige

    Many thanks, I'll consider my options and have a play.

     
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    Sep 25, 2012 6:18 AM   in reply to canarytops

    The folder drag/drop appears to have worked fine for me. So from being in the depths of despair thanks to Adobe chat support I'm now a very happy bunny !

    Thanks everyone.

     
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