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Too Many Problems .. No Answers .. No Solutions

May 15, 2012 2:23 PM

I would prefer to be accurate in my findings than to be emotionally frustrated.

 

I continue to have problems, and yesterday spent two hours with tech support .. nearly "teaching" your 'Call Center' about video editing and what happens.

 

I am beyond disgusted: Why cant I capture a VHS tape and stabilize it in the highest quality possible?

 

The Capture in PP doesn't work. The audio wont sync with the video in PP. The Stabilization "Out of Memory Error" is not appropriately defined ( Is says my scrach disk is full .. and it is not ) and after three 12 hour attempts at someone's "Mother's Day Present" for their son that passed away 8 years ago I still have nothing.

 

Q1: Why is Capture "Auto-Disconnecting" even when the settings seem to be set otherwize?

 
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    May 15, 2012 3:21 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    >capture a VHS tape

     

    With the very little information you provide, all I can say is that VHS is analog and you must convert to digital to be able to edit

     

    That conversion process is not done by any version of Premiere... digitizing hardware is required

     

    For example... Old forum discussion, message now gone, but here's the summary

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    Matt with Grass Valley Canopus in their tech support department stated that the model 110 will suffice for most hobbyist. If a person has a lot of tapes that were played often the tape stretches and the magnetic coding diminishes. If your goal is to encode tapes in good shape buy the 110, if you will be encoding old tapes of poor quality buy the model 300

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    Both the 110 and 300 are two way devices so you may output back to tape... if you don't need that, look at the model 55

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    http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc55 One Way Only to Computer

    http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc110 for good tapes, or

    http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc300 better with OLD tapes

     
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    May 15, 2012 4:23 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther
     
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    May 15, 2012 6:31 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    Other than the links I provided, I really can't help with Mac problems

     

    Over on the Windows side there are at least two other programs to use for DV capture... I think they are free, but have not used them myself

     

    I have NO idea what single purpose program you might use with a Mac that might capture DV better than Premiere

     
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    May 16, 2012 12:00 AM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    @ pharther phurther

     

    What is the VHS device that you are capturing from?

     

    Where does "Formac" fit into the capture workflow?  ie what is it?

     

    From what I observe ...you seem to have an inordinate (or unlucky) amount of problems with your NLE and system.  Does it meet (Adobe) minimum system requirements and what is your experience and knowledge of NLE software?

     
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    May 16, 2012 12:19 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    Look at the G devices here http://www.grassvalley.com/products/advc_g_series which claim to work with less than good source tapes with a "frame synchronizer"

     
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    May 16, 2012 11:15 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    @ P.P

     

    You never answered me...what is the VHS device you are capturing from?

     

    I am wondering if it has a TBC - time base corrector -  in it.

     
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    May 17, 2012 5:20 AM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    You can still use your firewire port capture via a minidv or dv camcorder , useing  the camcorder as a dv bridge and capture via I-movie or PPro ,this works for me.

     
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    May 17, 2012 7:48 AM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    Google found http://www.formac.com/webapp/products_av_studiodeluxe_specs.php which says it has software for capture... so is this what you have, and why are you not using their software that is designed for their device?

     
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    May 17, 2012 2:23 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    Im not sure if it has TBC ... It is a Formac DV .. ( Hard to find )

     

    That appears to be a converter and not a VHS device - ie a VHS Player Deck

     
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    May 17, 2012 3:27 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    That was helpful...NOT.

     

    I will leave you with it. See ya.

     
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    May 17, 2012 11:28 PM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    Pharther we still do a lot of transfer of old cine , vhs, 8mm etc.......   I founded that you are able to get many of the older machines at pawn shops(not porn shop lolol)  or on ebay very cheap, still in very good working order. Panasonic make a Svh-s NV-HS 1000 unit that includes TBC and the older panasonic minidv g11 to 15 act as a dv bridge , the result are very good. Also Canopus uints which was mentioned ealier are good.  hope this helps.

    Maybe its time to let go Mac and come to the Dark Side............  we have cookies...........very big  chocolate chip ones.........

     
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    May 18, 2012 7:14 AM   in reply to Pharther Phurther

    That cine system my give you a very good picture with that lens ,  As for Mac well we went with Canopus, PC Base system, We have never looked back  , after the problem we had with Avid and Mac.

    For cine flim capturing side we use a canopus Edius Pro, usesing Canopus Lossless codec to capture in. For vhs, 8mm , Svhs and Hi8mm, we also do capture via Canopus DVstorm 2 card  .

    I have doing some reseach in to direct coping  to DSLR http://blog.wanken.com/8338/convert-8mm-film-with-the-canon-5d-mark-ii /  this may interest you.

     

    What RAID card are you using?

    As for Raid, on the older system where we do Analog work it runs raid  , My other  PC runs without raid and edit with  CS5  and GV Edius Pro  6.06 which is similar spec to your Mac, we also have a New I5  sandybridge NLE which runs CS5.5 and Edius 6.06. no raid.

     

     

    Do you use the Warp Stabilizer? I use Edius version called  ProDAD's Mercalli V2 image stabilization , but in very few case we need any stablizing  as the SVHS machine has a TBC bliuded in, also we have a old Vidonics digital mixer with TBC biuld in which does the work very well.

     

    Do you have similar errors in your Apple "Console" ( utilities ) I cannot help you there  as I use Windows 7Pro 64bit.

     

    Good Luck hope you resolve your problems.

     
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