I found out that it was not possible to create a patern swatch with a single copy of 1x1. The preview window kept showing at least a 3x3 version and if you drag the swatch from your swatches pallet it copies 3x3 swatch.
Does any one else experienced the same issue and knows a work around??
The Pattern copies option 3x3, 5x3 and other presets (inside the Pattern Option panel) are just used for simulation purposes and it´s not effective part of the pattern saved to Swatches panel (it´s only a preference for simulation...for you best create the pattern).
For example...imagine you want to create a pattern that will be destined to a stroke. When creating the pattern you could set copies simulation to 1x3..so you can see better how the pattern will look when applied to your strokes.
Does it make sense?
Gustavo, thanks for your reply.
But sorry, it's not what I meant. If I create a pattern swatch in Illustrator CS5 it does not matter if the total shape of the items together is a square or a very wide rectangular shape.
It looks like that CS6 pattern swatches need to have a minimal object ratio of something about 0.55 (hight -width or width-height ratio). If not it will automatically repeat itself in the "preview box" as you described.
When I drag a pattern from the swatches menu in my illustrator document and the pattern was not created within this ratio size it will copy a number of copies in my document.
If it had the size within this height-width ratio and I drag it into my document it only copies one object without repeating itself.
The strangest thing is that pattern swatches create in CS5 and CS5.5 do not have this problem in CS6 as long as you do not edit them in CS6.
That's why I think it's a bug of Illustrator CS6….
It should not really be happening. It´s strange.
Can I ask you please to describe this problem to this form: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform&promoid=E WQQL
So the right engineers can receive and evaluate.
Thank you a lot and best regards
Yes, this is happening because your object bounds are rectangular in shape such that Width/Height is approximately half the Height or Width like Width = 2 times the height(approx). This is similar to what you described above. In Pattern Options panel I could find an option called 'Swatch Bounds' which if turned ON shows dotted lines squarish annotation; copies lying inside the swatch bounds are the ones which are shown when the swatch is drag dropped onto an artboard. If you go with the AICS5 way(creating pattern via drag-drop) then it will work in an earlier manner but in AICS6 legacy swatches are updated on editing them. The workflow I feel is to copy the tile from the editing mode and then paste it outside the editing mode for such cases. Alternatively, create a copy of the pattern swatch and modify the copy of this pattern swatch directly inside the editing mode.
My guess would be that the tile is shifting when you edit the pattern swatch in CS6. This causes the strokes to be seen as outside the tile, thus requiring the extra image tiles. When you edit the pattern in CS6, does the pattern tile remain in the correct place?
I think I'll go back to CS5.5 Illustrator and wait for a a hopefully quick fix. I also have to wait for 3rd party plugin developers to update to CS6.
Some of them say their updates will be available around September (halfway CS7?)...
I'm not sure if it is that big a problem that you look for switching to AICS5.5. The reason is it only happens for cases where Width/Height is approximately half the Height or Width like Width = 2 times the height(approx).
I think copying the object from the editing mode is the simplest option and works quite well for me. The point is CS6 pattern creator gives you lots of options to create variety of patterns. To me it has actually unblocked my ways to create different types of patterns.
I feel you should give it a try!
I found an easier work around. I create a swatch and drag it to the swatches pannel. This way it keeps behaving the same way as it did in CS5 and before.
If I want to modify the swatch I drag it from the Swatches pannel to my document and edit it the way I like, remove the bounding box frame and drop it back in my Swatches pannel creating a new swatch.
This way I do not use I do not have to use the Swatch options pannel which causes my little problem.
Thanx for all feedback.
I admit I do not understrand the issue but if I choose the number of copies in the Pattern Options panel and choose 1x1 and then drag the swatch to the canvas I get one copy of the art.
I realize i mus t not be understanding the issue correctly but I do not see the difference.
The only bug I found with the pattern Panel Options is that the feature to move tile with art does not seem to actually work?
Unless I am missing something there as well.
I'll show you in 5 steps what I mean (see images):
1 I create a shape with some text or other shapes in it
2 I drag it into the swatches panel
3 I double click on the new swatch and make the number of copies 1x1 and click on "Done" (the preview next to the tile type shows more!)
4 I drag the swatch edited in "Pattern options" from the swatch panel onto my Artboard and it creates multiple shapes
5 Is an example of dragging the same swatch from the Swatches pallet without editing it in "Pattern options"
Scott had the right answer allit is doing is resizing the tile, which might be a bug since it does it even if you don't have the option selected. But it is easy to corrrect with the tile tool so that the tile fills the entire swatch.
It works differently for a reason and good reason, which is to facilitate the making of seamless patterns.
when you pick one to one it shows you 1to 1 but since the tile is less than the swatch it shows yiou two more if the tile is the size of the art.
Yes it is behaving differently but it is a different tool so it is natural for it to work differently.
I doubt anyone will waste too much time looking into an issue that is really just a different behavior as it is a different tool and a much better tool. I would say for your particular case you should stick with the previous version you have and make yuour patterns fills the old way.
I should also mention I don't think you are making any sense as I cannot see an actual problem.
If you want to show only onse imae in the preview you change the tile size to the swatch size.
I guess all the options shown here are just for viewing purposes only while you are in the Pattern Creation/Editing mode and have no bearing on how your pattern tile gets created eventually. That means it does not matter how many Copies you specify, the pattern swatch in your Swatches panel will get created based on the other settings like Tile Type, Offset, Width, Height, Overlap, etc. you specify in the Pattern Options panel.
As I wrote there is not problem except that it behaves differentlyand gives you options. It's a new feature and there is no reason it should behave as if there were no feature.
I is actually an advantage as far as I can see.
Why do people call things bug when they simply don't understand it?
Oke Wayne one last effort to try to make you understand why it is a bug.
If I click on the swatch twice and the options panel opens, and I do not change any setting the swatch should stay as it was before.
And because it does not... it changes the behaviour of the swatch... That's why I call it a bug.
Wayne, I hope you understand what I am trying to make clear to you??
Again It is a different feature and works differently so it is not going to work the same way as before because it is different to make it clear.
before in order to make seamless patters were quite a chore and to do it correctly was even a bigger hallenge so now it is no challenge at all because they changed the way the pattern swatch features work.
If you can get yourself to see that it is not longer the older method of doing things then you get it. It is not a bug but an advancement.
Sometimes old ways of doing things have to simple go be forgotten in order to advance. This is waht you might be missing.
But if it is a case you want it to work the older way I would say you are out of luck and would be surprised if anyone even would even try to do anything to chsnge it as I see know reason when you have all the control you need withy the new feature i am sure there can be improvements made but I do not see how this would be an improvement.
I think in time yo will either get use to the way it works or you will not get use to it, but for everyone else I think they will just see the new tool as a new tool and work with the way it works and ht will be fine.
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