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Bug in Illustrator CS6 pattern options palet

May 12, 2012 2:26 AM

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I found out that it was not possible to create a patern swatch with a single copy of 1x1. The preview window kept showing at least a 3x3 version and if you drag the swatch from your swatches pallet it copies 3x3 swatch.

Does any one else experienced the same issue and knows a work around??

 
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    May 12, 2012 9:53 AM   in reply to F2011

    @F2011

     

    The Pattern copies option 3x3, 5x3 and other presets (inside the Pattern Option panel) are just used for simulation purposes and it´s not effective part of the pattern saved to Swatches panel (it´s only a preference for simulation...for you best create the pattern).

     

     

    For example...imagine you want to create a pattern that will be destined to a stroke. When creating the pattern you could set copies simulation to 1x3..so you can see better how the pattern will look when applied to your strokes.

     

    Does it make sense?

     

    Best Regards

    Gustavo.

     
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    May 13, 2012 7:16 AM   in reply to Gustavo Del Vechio

    Will Adobe work harder at fixing bugs and problems with CS6? I reported a problem in Illustrator CS3 and the problem still remains in every version even CS6.

     
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    May 13, 2012 8:54 AM   in reply to F2011

    Hi F2011

     

    Could you please show images of the problem you are having?

     

    Thank you

    Gustavo.

     
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    May 13, 2012 8:56 AM   in reply to Glen Charles Rowell

    Hi Glen

     

    Is the problem you reported about patterns?

     

    Gustavo.

     
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    May 13, 2012 9:57 AM   in reply to F2011

    Hi F2011

     

    Did you forget to insert the image?

     

    Gustavo.

     
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    May 14, 2012 4:54 AM   in reply to F2011

    Hi F2011

     

    It should not really be happening. It´s strange.

     

    Can I ask you please to describe this problem to this form: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform&promoid=E WQQL

     

    So the right engineers can receive and evaluate.

     

    Thank you a lot and best regards

    Gustavo.

     
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    May 15, 2012 7:32 AM   in reply to F2011

    @F2011

     

    Yes, this is happening because your object bounds are rectangular in shape such that Width/Height is approximately half the Height or Width like Width = 2 times the height(approx). This is similar to what you described above. In Pattern Options panel I could find an option called 'Swatch Bounds' which if turned ON shows dotted lines squarish annotation; copies lying inside the swatch bounds are the ones which are shown when the swatch is drag dropped onto an artboard. If you go with the AICS5 way(creating pattern via drag-drop) then it will work in an earlier manner but in AICS6 legacy swatches are updated on editing them. The workflow I feel is to copy the tile from the editing mode and then paste it outside the editing mode for such cases. Alternatively, create a copy of the pattern swatch and modify the copy of this pattern swatch directly inside the editing mode.

     
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    May 17, 2012 12:52 PM   in reply to F2011

    My guess would be that the tile is shifting when you edit the pattern swatch in CS6. This causes the strokes to be seen as outside the tile, thus requiring the extra image tiles. When you edit the pattern in CS6, does the pattern tile remain in the correct place?

     
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    May 17, 2012 1:31 PM   in reply to F2011

    Thank you a lot @F2011

     

    This way the Team can now investigate

     

    Thank you a lot

    Gustavo.

     
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    May 18, 2012 8:12 AM   in reply to F2011

    I'm not sure if it is that big a problem that you look for switching to AICS5.5. The reason is it only happens for cases where Width/Height is approximately half the Height or Width like Width = 2 times the height(approx).

    I think copying the object from the editing mode is the simplest option and works quite well for me. The point is CS6 pattern creator gives you lots of options to create variety of patterns. To me it has actually unblocked my ways to create different types of patterns.

     

    I feel you should give it a try!

     
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    May 19, 2012 10:27 AM   in reply to F2011

    I admit I do not understrand the issue but if I choose the number of copies in the Pattern Options panel and choose 1x1 and then drag the swatch to the canvas I get one copy of the art.

     

    I realize i mus t not be understanding the issue correctly but I do not see the difference.

     

    The only bug I found with the pattern Panel Options is that the feature to move tile with art does not seem to actually work?

     

    Unless I am missing something there as well.

     
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    May 19, 2012 3:01 PM   in reply to F2011

    Scott had the right answer allit is doing is resizing the tile, which might be a bug since it does it even if you don't have the option selected. But it is easy to corrrect with the tile tool so that the tile fills the entire swatch.

     

    It works differently for a reason and good reason, which is to facilitate the making of seamless patterns.

     

    when you pick one to one it shows you 1to 1 but since the tile is less than the swatch it shows yiou two more if the tile is the size of the art.

     

    Yes it is behaving differently but it is a different tool so it is natural for it to work differently.

     

    I doubt anyone will waste too much time looking into an issue that is really just a different behavior as it is a different tool and a much better tool. I would say for your particular case you should stick with the previous version you have and make yuour patterns fills the old way.

     

    I should also mention I don't think you are making any sense as I cannot see an actual problem.

     

    If you want to show only onse imae in the preview you change the tile size to the swatch size.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-05-19 at 5.47.59 PM.png

     
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    May 19, 2012 3:06 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Here it is one to one drgged onto the document from the swatch panel without resizing the tile.

     

    it is just showing you the what you asre actually getting with one tile size fill, which is the way it should have been in previous versions.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-05-19 at 6.02.06 PM.png

     
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    May 20, 2012 7:12 AM   in reply to F2011

    Adobe Illustrator CS6-1.jpg

    I guess all the options shown here are just for viewing purposes only while you are in the Pattern Creation/Editing mode and have no bearing on how your pattern tile gets created eventually. That means it does not matter how many Copies you specify, the pattern swatch in your Swatches panel will get created based on the other settings like Tile Type, Offset, Width, Height, Overlap, etc. you specify in the Pattern Options panel.

     

     
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    May 20, 2012 7:34 AM   in reply to CupertinoFruit

    CupertinoFruit wrote:

     

    Adobe Illustrator CS6-1.jpg

    I guess all the options shown here are just for viewing purposes only

     

     

    Exactly.

     
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    May 20, 2012 9:26 AM   in reply to Monika Gause

    As I wrote there is not problem except that it behaves differentlyand gives you options. It's a new feature and there is no reason it should behave as if there were no feature.

     

    I is actually an advantage as far as I can see.

     

    Why do people call things bug when they simply don't understand it?

     
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    May 20, 2012 3:11 PM   in reply to F2011

    Again It is a different feature and works differently so it is not going to work the same way as before because it is different to make it clear.

     

    before in order to make seamless patters were quite a chore and to do it correctly was even a bigger hallenge so now it is no challenge at all because they changed the way the pattern swatch features work.

     

    If you can get yourself to see that it is not longer the older method of doing things then you get it. It is not a bug but an advancement.

     

    Sometimes old ways of doing things have to simple go be forgotten in order to advance. This is waht you might be missing.

     

    But if it is a case you want it to work the older way I would say you are out of luck and would be surprised if anyone even would even try to do anything to chsnge it as I see know reason when you have all the control you need withy the new feature i am sure there can be improvements made but I do not see how this would be an improvement.

     

    I think in time yo will either get use to the way it works or you will not get use to it, but for everyone else I think they will just see the new tool as a new tool and work with the way it works and ht will be fine.

     
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