Hello
A few things I've noticed in PS CS6 (apart from large layer selection problems and pixel perfectl CTRL+CLICK selections not working properly). Now I've done a bit of searching, and I cannot find a way to get rid of them:
The other changes are quite easy to get used to, but these two? Is there actually a way to get around them or are we stuck with 2 nonsensical changes?
Hi
I know you are facing difficulities with new interface of PS CS6. But let me explain you that we have completely resigned our PS CS6
I know you were used to few features and ow they have been either changed or modified
But with the advancement we have embedded new features too.
Regarding your query for Path selections --
We changed this behavior because shape layers are no longer a content fill layer with a separate vector mask attached -- the shape path can now be considered part of the layer. So it makes sense for the shape path to be selected (and visible) by default.
There are still ways to hide or deselect the shape path:
-Command/Ctrl-H (or View > Show > Target Path) will toggle the visibility of the shape path.
-Enter/Return will toggle the selection of the shape path.
-Clicking on the shape path thumbnail in the Properties panel will toggle the selection of the shape path.
-Esc will deselect the shape path.
But yes the query related to strkes and drop shadow -- there is no impact on the workflow even after we have changed the order for the same.
-- Baljeet
That's great, except you didn't specifically answer my questions
Why can't we order the blending options the way we like? We are the consumers, and in no way shape or form could it hurt for us to be able to do this, just so when CS7 comes out, we don't have to worry when you change it again for whatever reason.
Secondly, you mention the shape layer selection is visible by default. Okay. How come we can't get a simple option to have it not visible by default? Please address this: How am I suppose to style many objects in a layout using subtle strokes, inner/outer shadows or bevels, nicely and efficiently? The answer is, I can't. I have to hide them each and every single time. This is a huge time waster, for something that could be fixed with one simple tickbox is Photoshop's preferences.
Baljeet, you do not have an Adobe user account, but seem to speak for the company. Do check with John Cornicello about it.
Phillison, The effects have been reordered to be shown in the order in which they are drawn on the image.
If you want to apply them in a different order, a workaround is to use nested Layer Groups, as Groups can now have layer styles.
Phillison, The effects have been reordered to be shown in the order in which they are drawn on the image.
Huh? Did you read my original post? The problem is with blending tools, not the order that they appear in the layers panel.
Three replies on and neither problems have been addressed. Why is it whenever I post on any Adobe related forum/subforum, that I feel like I may as well talk to a house brick.
Phillison, yes, I've read your post, no need to get upset ![]()
The layer effects (drop shadows, strokes...) have been reordered in the layer blending options, so that they appear in the same order in which they are drawn on the image (so that users understand why one hides the other), which is a direct answer to:
"•Why have things been changed, that we cannot unchange? For example, in blending options, drop shadow is now at the bottom, stroke it at the top. "
I then provided a workaround to let you change the order of the layer styles on the image, (yes, you cannot reorder it in the layer style menu) by using the new feature that allows you to apply them to groups.
Hope this helps. Please cool down, the sun is shining, even if it is on top of the clouds
This was not possible before, so it's a change that brings new creative possibilities.
Phillison wrote:
For example, in blending options, drop shadow is now at the bottom, stroke it at the top. Why? We get used to this for however many years, then it gets changed with no way to turn it back. How come?
Pierre answered:
Phillison, The effects have been reordered to be shown in the order in which they are drawn on the image.
How did this not address your original post?
Your response was pretty insulting to people trying to help.
Or, insulting to brick houses.
Take a deep breath, Phillison. You feel some frustration - we fellow users get that and are sympathetic. But don't think for a minute that it's okay to insult people.
Most of what you see is probably not going to change back, and like the rest of us you're going to have to overcome your resistance to change. Some of us have been using Photoshop CS6 for several months now, and we're here to tell you it's actually quite usable. We're offering our advice on how you can best get through the transition too. Don't worry, adapting to change helps keep the mind young.
PECourtejoie actually read your question correctly - internally the Layer Style Effects (which you incorrectly called "blending options") - if you should enable them all - are combined in a certain order, and Adobe has changed the order of all the lists to reflect that. That means drop shadow is at the bottom. Unfortunately, that means all us old timers who think positionally (I'm one too) will stumble for a little while until we get used to the new list ordering. Maybe this helps people initially understand the product better or something, I don't know. I personally might not have made that change if I were planning the work, but Adobe chose to do so, and now we have to live with it. Don't worry, it does get easier after a while.
A lot of folks have complained about the path showing up in the shape layers. This is one thing I'm still having trouble getting used to, and in fact enough folks have fed back negative vibes on this that Adobe may be considering some way to overcome the problem - a sticky "show path" setting or something. Keep in mind that for now, as a workaround, it's possible to get rid of the path by clicking on the icon shown below in the Properties panel:
-Noel
Comparing the advice given on Adobe forums over the past 5 years to speaking to a house brick is an insult to somebody? Wow. If you want to hear an insult, you should have been there the myriad of times Flash has crashed for no reason, or the times I found yet another bug/problem/inconsistency with Captivate, or when I read documented problems in beta versions of the CS months before release that still end up being in the release, or when I look at the dodgy code MUSE produces, or when I use Edge - to see it produce an insane amount of unneccessary code + library inclusions, how about the Fireworks type tool being broken for all those years? Can I work on FLA files over the network yet or is that still problematic?
Forgive me if after a decade of putting up with nonsensical changes, additions and workarounds that only benefit Adobe, that I'm not here with a smile on my face.
So it was changed with no clear benefit to anyone, with a system that worked better before, and we have to get used to that, with the clear cut disadvantages I explained? That's the official response or? Because that's freaking incredible.
charles badland wrote:
And, technically Phil, the Blending Options are to the right of where your big red arrowheads are pointing.
I think you meant to say: "You know what layer effects are, right?"
In the layers panel, do you right click on a layer, then pick "Blending Options" or "Layer Effects" to get to this panel? Nice try, I'll give you an A+ for trolling though.
Heh, maybe you want to stop before you dig yourself into a bigger hole than you already have.
You're not interpreting what you're seeing properly. Think about it... In what way is a Drop Shadow a "blending option"? Blending Options are just the first sub-function of the panel. In fact, if you look carefully, there's a little dividing line between the Blending Options selector and all the Layer Styles selectors below.
Yes, it stings when you find out you've been wrong in the way you've been thinking about something for a long time. It happens to everyone.
-Noel
P.S., Note also what Adobe calls the whole sub-menu:
North America
Europe, Middle East and Africa
Asia Pacific